How about high taxes and the government does everything in its power to entrench the power structure?
I don't believe that you'll find the means of production to be ruled by the state in Sweden. Perhaps some aspects, which no doubt Hakan and others could enlighten us all on, but certainly not all aspects. And some of those pointers could be aptly applied here in the US, especially when it comes to health care. The concept of those who can afford to buy an entirely new body and stick their head on it when entire masses don't have the capital means to pay for simple medications that would allow them to keep their first body intact for another 20 years is a corrupt concept. What is found in the US is a bastardized blend between capitalism, corporatism and socialism - a bit like mixing everything on the dinner plate before eating "cause it's all gonna' get mixed up sooner or later anyway" - it compromises, if not destroys the maximum utility of each, but supposedly keeps everyone happy enough for the politicians to keep getting elected. Too bad it's not a homogenous blend. Streaks of socialistic tendencies run rampant in the US, whether it be subsidies, tax incentives, tax breaks, medicaid, you name it. Unfortunately, those tendencies don't get spread equally across the board, more often than not the special interests receiving the vast balance of "socialistic" benefits. Not exactly a policy of equity. But to hear some tell it, it's the best system money can buy. Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Spence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bringing democracy to Sweden > socialist as in high taxes and the government provides everything for you, > cradle to grave. not my cup of tea, but it works for them I suppose. I > believe if you won't feed yourself, you have no right forcing your neighbor > to feed you. If he chooses to help you when you are down, that's cool, but > it should be voluntary, not forced. > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter > & Discussion Boards. Read about Sustainable Technology: > http://www.green-trust.org > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Foskey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 11:10 PM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Bringing democracy to Sweden > > > > On Sat, 12 Apr 2003 12:19, you wrote: > > > Is that "Socialist" with a curled lip, or is that "socialist" as in a > > > nation that takes care of its people rather than throwing them to the > > > bottom feeders? > > > > > > In far more instances than not it's better than a representative > democracy > > > where anyone can be bought for a price - where "one man one vote" can be > > > superceded by access and purchase power. > > > > > > Todd Swearingen > > > > socialist as in caring. I was in Sweden in 1985, & even though people > > complained about the high taxes, I don't think you would find many that > > wanted to change the benefits. > > I wish Australia had the same outlook (as our PM is busy dismantling one > of > > the arguably best Health systems in the world) > > Doug > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here! http://us.click.yahoo.com/2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/