Dear Hakan, That is an interesting site, although it seems a bit out of date (pre-Enron days c. 2000). Increasing efficiency is certainly an important component. Here is a recent article on the topic:
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/mercurynews/news/local/5333274.htm On Mon, 21 Apr 2003, Hakan Falk wrote: > > Dear Karus, > > We have tried to get through to the Californians with, > > http://california.energy.saving.nu/ > > Maybe it will be of some interest for you. The official > advices on energy saving are still to lower/rise temperatures > and to shut down HVAC in offices during non office hours. > This way they ensure the occurrence of high peak demands > in predictable time periods. > > Hakan > > > At 03:23 PM 4/19/2003 -0700, you wrote: > > >I have some comments regarding my fellow citizen's comments from Dallas, > >Texas, but first I'd like to say that this list is fantastic and very > >useful. > > > >I'm a grad student in California trying to move into renewable energy > >production. As a research scientist I KNOW that the technologies are > >totally feasible - biodiesel, ethanol, photovoltaics, wind - and I also > >know that California gets 25% of its oil from Iraq (pre-war). So it is > >(unfortunately) a political issue - if it wasn't, California would have > >switched to renewables entirely about 25 years ago - no fossil fuels > >whatsoever. So I completely appreciate the 'political' posts as well as > >the technical ones, and I'm sure as hell not going to give up my > >citizenship and leave the state! Some of my fellow citizens apparently > >don't understand the fact that the only reason we have any rights in the > >US is because people fought for them for hundreds of years. Leave the > >country? I think not. > > > >In any case, what we are going to do in California is do what should > have > >been done 25 years ago- completely switch to renewable energy sources. > >There are about a thousand entrenched obstacles, but we really have no > >other choice. There are thousands of people in California that are > >behind this approach, from all levels of society. We are going to build > >ethanol and biodiesel processing plants, using local agriculture, we are > >going to build and manufacture solar arrays and wind turbines, and > anyone > >with the necessary skills can participate. Everyone I talk to has had > >enough of the energy barons and the ripoffs - see Greg Palast's chapter > on > >"California Reamin'" in his new book for the details. We want no part > of > >the Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld-Ashcroft junta and their dreams of world > >conquest. What do they worry about most? Losing control of the energy > >supply - which is what renewable, dispersed energy means to them, which > is > >why the first thing they did was to slash the renewable research budget. > > > >Yes, the propaganda is piled on thick here - see www.dieoff.org for a > >cleverly disguised example. The theme of this site is that we (in the > US) > >are going to die a horrible death of energy starvation unless we grab > the > >world's oil....since only an idiot would trust solar energy and > >biofuels to 'do the job'....This is high-brow propaganda - for more > >examples, see www.luntzspeak.com, and then try doing a Google search for > >'luntzspeak'- is that a first? Is that really censorship on Google? I > >hope its just technical. > > > >GW BUSH Luntzspeak: > >"I'm proposing 1.2 billion in research funding so that America can lead > >the world in developing clean, hydrogen-powered automobiles...The first > >car driven by a child born today could be powered by hydrogen, and > >pollution-free." > > > >GW BUSH English translation: "The Big 3 automakers have fought for > decades > >against fuel efficiency. But, its the State of the Union, and I need a > >way to look green. By 'proposing' research funding, I can put off any > >real emissions reductions for years." > > > >http://www.luntzspeak.com/decoder.html > > > >Anyhow, this list is great. Best wishes, Karus Solem > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/AG3JAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
