Kim
My wife, Boo and I, will have been married for 20 years this July, and
we are happier now than ever!!  However, all of our friends that married
around 1983, '84 and '85 are all divorced now, some two or three times
over.  We know only one other couple that has been married over ten
years.  I agree  with the idea of the self-centeredness of our society.
Another underlying (or subconsciencous) idea causing this 30 or 40
year-old trend is the "throw-away" or disposable lifestyle Americans
have developed.  When arguments arise, people tend to take the easy way
out, rather than work through their problems, which is the same
mentality of "throw-it-away-when-you-are-tired-of-it" kind of thinking.
This is contrary to our fathers and grandfathers who lived through
adversity like the Great-Depression or the World Wars, where people had
to pull together to survive.

Mak Kaufman

-----Original Message-----
From: Kim & Garth Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 1:53 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [biofuel] OT & Personal

Thank you for the happy news, it is nice to know we are not the only
ones.
Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 02:49 PM 5/7/2003 -0600, you wrote:
>I believe as a society most of the population has gotten very self
centered.
>Thus the short marriages.
>This list I believe is not a representative sample as many people here
are
>idealistic and not self centered.
>I have been with my lady about 24 years and we hate being apart.
>
>Kirk
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Kim & Garth Travis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 12:16 PM
>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [biofuel] OT & Personal
>
>
>My husband is on a desiel repair course, out of town.  The class is
mixed
>and during a social break, one of the ladies stated she had never seen
a
>happy marriage and no longer believed in them.  Everyone except my
spouse,
>either agreed or stated they had 'livable' marriages.  This is the
first
>time he has been on a course with out me for over 10 years, so we have
been
>out of the circuit.  Is this normal?  Has the general opinion of
marriage
>really gotten this bad?  I can understand why we haven't heard this
before,
>since we are obviously happily married and have been for almost 15
years.
>
>Someone please tell me that this is rare.
>
>Bright Blessings,
>Kim
>
>
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