I really like the idea of producing H2 and Meth that this method proposes. It would be a great source of Bio-Methanol for other processes as well as supplying H2 for various applications (think stationary fuel cells for backup power generation).
James Slayden On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Greg and April wrote: > True, but, this method also gives of CO2 as well as the H2. These two > together, are precursors for Methanol which is a basic feedstock for many > of > the common chemicals made / used today, in the petrochemical industry. > With the right catalyst, H2 and CO2 can be made into a multitude of > different products ( including gasoline ). I know, I said the bad " G " > word, but, let's face it, this world is not going to get of it's habit > over night. > > One thing about this method, is that by altering the metal catalyst a > bit, > you produce CH4 -- methane, which is another petrochemical feedstock, as > well as the H2 and CO2. I think that in the future, that if any > petrochemical wants to truly be green, this might be one of the way they > will do it, for their raw feedstock. Ethanol has a few things that > detract > from it as a feedstock, namely a higher carbon to hydrogen ratio, not > much, > but, enough to cause an increase in cost, of manufacture, because of the > need to do something with it, be it getting rid of it or collecting it > for > other purposes. Another problem with ethanol, is it's affinity for > water, > the added cost of denaturing, and the denaturing materials themselves, > all > of which may be unsuitable for feedstock purposes. On the other hand, > the > CO2 and H2 or the CO2, H2, and CH4 ( depending on the catalyst and what > the > final product is to be ) would be a good starting feedstock. > > Greg H. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "robert luis rabello" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 23:24 > Subject: Re: [biofuel] Researchers find new metal combination > forcheaperproduction of hydrogen as fuel > > > > > > > > Greg and April wrote: > > > > > True, but, this speeds the process, way up from what I understand. > > > > > > Greg H. > > > > > > > I ran an experiment with anaerobic hydrogen production from a sugar > solution > > many years ago. It works just like methanogenesis. If you want more > hydrogen, > > or want it in a hurry, build a larger digester. . . > > > > I abandoned the project because fermentation into ethanol produces > a > fuel > > that is much easier to handle. There's a bit less energy involved in > hydrogen > > production, but the need for gas compression narrows that gap > considerably. > > > > > > robert luis rabello > > "The Edge of Justice" > > Adventure for Your Mind > > http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 > > > > > > > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Biofuels list archives: > > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuels list archives: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > > Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. > To unsubscribe, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Get A Free Psychic Reading! Your Online Answer To Life's Important Questions. http://us.click.yahoo.com/Lj3uPC/Me7FAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
