Do you know why they propagate hydrogen ???. Because petrol companies proposes create it from petroleum.
And the best and only ecological way is hydrolisis. But hydrogen don«t solves the nowaday problem ( use of ecological fuel in petrol vehicles). Perhaps another help way is ban the selling of new gasoline (that can not use pure bioalcohol) engines - vehicles - , because only can use petrol and this fuel is very contaminant and negative for human health and nature (ecosystem). Regards. ---- Elabore caseramente biodiesel para su actual motor de gasoil petrol’fero La soluci—n a sus problemas energˇticos. http://www.enlazando.com/energia http://journeytoforever.org/energiaweb/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Hakan Falk To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] UPDATE: Use of vegetable oil in a diesel engine Detrick, I think that it is very commendable of you, to want to go through this kind of efforts. It is however not without a special reflection that I read about all the efforts that you are to embark on. Is it not remarkable that a Nation that will spend billions of $ on Hydrogen, must relay on an enthusiastic private person to approve vegetable oil in diesel engines? This especially since the original engine design and use, was for vegetable oil. -:)) After making the mistake of believing that, http://strategicplan.doe.gov/Draft%20SP.pdf was a joke, I am taking your information seriously. It is after all 50% chance that it is a serious matter and not a joke. Good luck with your efforts, you are doing a good thing for US and I hope that EPA is embarrassed enough to give you all possible assistance. Hakan At 09:43 AM 8/26/2003 -0400, you wrote: >A few months ago (May 2003), I started a thread about the legalities >relating to the use of VO in a diesel engine in the U.S. This >eventually led to the discovery, that the U.S. EPA wants certain >emissions test results, to recognize VO as a legal motor fuel. >Biodiesel went through this process in it's own right, but because of >the chemical differences between biodiesel and VO, VO cannot be >recognized on the basis of the biodiesel test results. > >Ed Beggs, of Neoteric Biofuels, Inc., allowed me to forward a thesis he >had written, "Renewable Oil Fuels and Diesel Engines as Components of >Sustainable System Design", to the U.S. EPA. It was my hope that this >thesis would provide the EPA with the data they were looking for. I >suspected, however, that the thesis would not be enough. Even so, I >gambled on the EPA responding with where the data was lacking, so I >could begin to research how to complete the data set. > >Jim Caldwell, of the U.S. EPA, has responded back. It took him about 2 >days to respond, so he at least had the time to read the thesis. As I >had suspected, Jim informed me that the thesis did not contain the >necessary information. But, he was able to point me to the U.S. EPA's >"Diesel Retrofit Program". After skimming through the information on >the Retrofit Program, I've found a section which offers alternative >fuels as, for lack of a better way to say it, a 'retrofit' to reduce >emissions. It also appears that a wealth of documentation, test plans, >and other requirements are available. > >So, what does this mean in the end? My quest to get VO accepted by the >U.S. EPA as a legal motor fuel might just have a chance. At least I >have access to a method for submitting the right information the right >way, to the EPA. I'll be reading over the information on this program >over the next few days/weeks, as I have spare time. Hopefully, then, I >can draw up some kind of feasable plan to get regulations pushed through >the EPA. > >If anyone cares to help in some way (I'm certainly don't have the >facilities or knowledge, yet, to complete what I'm attempting), I'd be >glad to accept it. If not, expect to be hit with questions as I learn >how to make this happen. > >-detrick > >-------- Original Message -------- >Subject: Re: Use of vegetable oil in a diesel engine >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 08:35:39 -0400 >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: Detrick Merz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >Detrick, > >Thank you for the interesting thesis. However, it does not address >whether the technology, when applied to engines certified to U.S. >emission standards, will allow those engines to still meet standards. I >believe that the most appropriate approach for you to take is through >the Voluntary Diesel Retrofit Program. Please see: >http://www.epa.gov/otaq/retrofit/index.htm. > >Jim Caldwell >(202) 564-9303 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. 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