Thanks Maud,
Explains maybe the setup of the tests and the way to report the results. The report belongs to some interest organizations "dirty trick" department. Hakan At 09:53 AM 8/30/2003 -0500, you wrote: >The study is copyrighted 1996 Society of Automotive Engineers. >Although I know nothing about this organization, I do know that here >in the US automotive engineers are most frequently associated with >Detroit automakers whose primary profit producers are fuel-guzzling >SUVs and whose vision of the future (at least at this point) is >hydrogen-fueled. (Personally, I feel the current US administration's >focus on the potential of hydrogen fuel is motivated by the desire to >defer change to some distant future rather than to embrace changes >that are possible right now, without modifying fuel delivery and >distribution systems.) > >Maud >Who just bought a Mercedes 300D (1984, 150k miles) yesterday >afternoon and is now making arrangements to acquire old home heating >oil storage tanks for her WVO in >St. Louis, MO > > >Mark, > > > >I only read the investigation hastily and was confused. Then I > >discovered that the assumption was use of rapeseed oil in > >unmodified engine and also modified (elsbett). This means that > >the rapeseed oil was not preheated and it can be expected > >that it would be incomplete combustion. This means also > >that the investigation is totally dependent on the combustion > >in the engines at hand. One question is, how incomplete is > >the SVO combustion? Elsbett is equal to preheated SVO. > > > >This is not an investigation between fuels, since the conditions > >for combustion are not equal. Even I, who do not have the > >extensive knowledge and experiences as most people of this > >list, could draw this conclusion. It may be an supporting > >investigation on importance of the need to do engine conversions, > >that is all folks. Disappointing, since it is advertised as a > >fuel comparison and as such it is way off the mark. . > > > >If you should do any kind of conclusions on fuel, forget about > >the SVO numbers and make SVO = Elsbett numbers. This might > >be some kind of indication, otherwise the paper is useless. One > >could wonder how it was financed and the interests behind it, > >but it could also be incompetence and I wonder if it has been > >subject to any scientific peer review. > > > >I am sorry, but for me it is not a good source and I have some > >difficulties to see that it could be used for anything else than > >maybe slanted propaganda. > > > >Hakan > > > > > >At 04:21 AM 8/30/2003 +0000, you wrote: > >>I can't open that missouri link from the annoying computer I"m using > >>but a couple of people from our local [Burnveggies] list are wondering > >>offlist about this issue too- what's it say (and equally importantly, > >>how did 'they' arrive at it)? > >>mark > >> > >> > >>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Thor Skov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > WOW!*! > > > > > > > > I just glanced at some of the emissions data in the > > > > Missouri study and was shocked at how poorly SVO > > > > performs. I can't see why I would want to install an > > > > SVO system from an environmental perspective, although > > > > certainly I see the cost savings if you can get your > > > > used oil for free. Biodiesel just seems the much > > > > cleaner alternative. > > > > > > > > Any counter-arguments? Am I missing something? Why > > > > is SVO so darn dirty? > >> > > >> > thor > >> > >> > > >> > > >>http://bengal.missouri.edu/~pavt0689/Review_Utilization_of_Rapeseed_Oi > > >l.pdf > > > > This is a good source, outrageously big file size due > > > > to bad file formatting. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
