I would agree with you, if it was higher R/P values for natural gas. With the current 7 years for US, the demands of independence of import becomes an even a more impossible dream. I do not have to describe the current US situation on NG again. Hydrogen from NG achieve nothing and the best bet is coal/nuclear at the end. It is already feverish activities in US to build a lot more nuclear power stations.
Hydrogen production at home? That will make Osama bin Laden happy. Hakan At 06:27 PM 9/20/2003, you wrote: > >Initially Hydrogen will come from US coal reserves and then > >central production with huge Nuclear Power Stations. To > >diversify from this, to consumer level is at best a naive dream > >and probably a deliberate attempt of scam. > >To some extent I think it will also come from natural gas reformed at >the level of the home (and let us remember that H2 is presently >usually made from Natural Gas... about 90% I think). And, as Ken >points out, from simple electrolysis using electricity delivered to >the home. > >If they must have their H2 economy, I'd like to see H2 made from other >sources, such as methane made from biomass, if they want to establish >a sustainable economy of H2, but what do I know. > > >To hook up your car for consumer production of one of the > >most difficult gases to handle, cannot be a realistic dream. > >Osama bin Laden would be happy to know that the Americans > >will blow up themselves at the end. > > > >Maybe they are now building arguments for Bush to take the > >taxpayers money and pay for the upgrade of the grid. > > > >Hakan > > > >At 08:42 AM 9/20/2003, you wrote: > >>Hi > >> > >>Here's my two cents worth on the hydrogen economy. > >>Electrolysis of water is what will happen and the car > >>companies are promoting plugging into your home at > >>night to charge up for the morning commute. > >> > >>How much extra capacity will power companies need to > >>install to charge up all these hydrogen cars? Let's > >>say your car averages 20-horsepower (~15kW) for an > >>hour a day = 54MJoules/day. I read somewhere that an > >>average house uses 0.75kW and if this means 24 hours > >>per day, 65MJoules/day. It would interesting if > >>anyone has an "average" electric bill for comparison. > >> > >> > >>A lot of energy will be needed to charge up all those > >>millions of hydrogen cars and where will it come from? > >> > >>Best regards, > >> > >>Ken ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> ReplayTV: Control live television Special Sale: 50% off ReplayTV CNet Ranked #1 over Tivo! http://us.click.yahoo.com/aUMW7B/A6qGAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
