Hi MM >It's perhaps good thought to err on the side of repeating some of >these things.
Definitely - my purpose was to draw attention to the previous discussion, not that it erred. Best Keith >We've had some good discussion over the last few months here in this group and >elsewhere as to hybrids, EVs, diesels, and the pros and cons of combinations. >Over the years one of the roadblocks I've run into is that some from >the EV camp >will absolutely not abide discussion of biofuels. > >I'd *really* like to see a grid-chargeable diesel-electric hybrid, >but what I'd >like and what I expect are two different things. Since such a vehicle would >give the owner two separate ways to bypass using Oil-company products (by >plugging in to an electric current which the owner may take the trouble to >ensure is renewable generated, or by filling up with fuel which the owner may >take the trouble to ensure is renewably made), I assume that it will >somehow be >fought and perhaps stalled, even though we will somehow not see the >mechanism by >which pressure is brought to bear to stall this product from being brought to >market. > >On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 05:28:22 +0900, you wrote: > > >It was posted before - discussion about it here: > > > >http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=24691&list=biofuel&related=1 > > > >Best > > > >Keith > > > > > >>http://lfee.mit.edu/features/hydrogen_vehicles > >> > >> Hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle won't reduce greenhouse gas emissions by > >>2020; diesel and gasoline hybrids are a better bet, concludes an MIT > >>study > >> > >>Published in MIT Tech Talk, March 5, 2003. > >> > >> > >> > >>Even with aggressive research, the hydrogen fuel-cell vehicle will not > >>be better than the diesel hybrid (a vehicle powered by a conventional > >>engine supplemented by an electric motor) in terms of total energy use > >>and greenhouse gas emissions by 2020, says a study recently released by > >>the Laboratory for Energy and the Environment (LFEE). > > > ><snip> ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?list=biofuel Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/