Sorry for the misinformation. I was recalling from my drinking days. Of
which I have not done for many years.

-----Original Message-----
From: bob allen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 8:16 PM
To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Phenolphthalein

actually everclear is 190 proof, or 95 % alcohol. It is the highest 
concentration you can get by simple distillation of aqueous ethanol.  If 
you begin with a mixture of alcohol and water, as from a fermentation 
broth, the lowest boiling component is the azeotrope of ethanol/water   
95:5 with a boiling point of about 78 degrees celcius.  To get absolute 
alcohol, 200 proof or 100%, requires  considerably more effort and is 
not to my knowledge sold for human consumption. 


Mark McElvy wrote:

>A product called Everclear is a 200 proof pure grain alcohol sold hear in
>the States
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>Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:52 AM
>To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [biofuel] Phenolphthalein
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Dermot"
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>>Thanks for the help Paul,
>>
>>Now I can't get ethanol except in 45 gallon drums!
>>Is vodka close enough to ethanol and could I mix the phenolphthalein with
>>it?
>>
>>Regards
>>Dermot
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>Dermot, not being a consumer of things alcoholic I'm not sure of the proof
>of vodka. 98% pure alcohol would be almost 200 proof. Don't imaging any
>drink for human consumption would be that strong. Whilst working for a
>pharmaceutical company once I was analysing one of their raw materials. The
>analysis consisted in serial dilutions in pure ethanol with 2% hydrochloric
>acid. Sucked a bit too hard on the pipette and got half a mouthful of the
>brew. That night whilst eating dinner the 1st layer of skin came away from
>the inside of my mouth.
>
>You could give the vodka a try.  Soime brands of methylated Spirits sold
out
>here in Oz are mostly ethanol could be worth investigating.
>Perhaps methanol could be substituted, the phenolphthalein definately
>prefers to be disolved in alcohol. Have to be even more careful not to get
>this mix on your skin though.
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>Regards   Paul Gobert.
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