CTFO Todd,
You're not likely to win converts with outbursts like that. In my experience, biofuels are an easy sell when you lay all of the facts out, but biodiesel isn't the solution to every pollution problem. In fact, the way that some states monitor and measure their emissions, BD may be more of a polluter than dinodiesel. I know that here in Texas (particularly near Houston), NOX is just as big an issue as SOX, so anything with a higher discharge is looked at suspiciously by the petroleum-sponsored lackeys in the government. Since their actions are only motivated by results achievable within the short election cycle, it's unlikely that our direct lobbying efforts will have an appreciable affect on policy. However if we can create a groundswell of popular support for biofuels, then the politicians' pavlovian response will be to take action in line with focus-group and voter opinion poll data. If we can calmly and rationally answer the questions of this environmentalist person, then (s)he will become another advocate and spokesperson for our cause. -BRAH -----Original Message----- From: Appal Energy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 7:33 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator What the hell is your objectionist's problems with clean diesel? Perhaps he or she likes dirty diesel technologies better? Perhaps he or she would rather wait another 25 years for the oft pitched LNG infrastructure to not appear ..... again? Perhaps he or she would rather wait for 30 years until a hydrogen infrastructure is still not yet a reality? And what about the dirty and carbon negative technologies that will yield all that hydrogen? Perhaps he or she is genetically identical in the misguieded mental processes of Dan Becker of Club Sierra? PM traps are already being mandated for new diesels in the EU and the US and becoming more and more cost efficient per unit of production. In short order PM traps will be serviced as quickly and efficiently as a 30 minute oil change.Biodiesel further reduces particulate matter. No sulfur/SOx with biodiesel. The new "green diesel" without its sulfur is going to cause greater wear and tear on moving parts of engines and injection systems. Mandatory inclusion of 3-5% biodiesel eliminates that problem. Manufacture of distillate fuel oils is less energy intensive than manufacture of gasolines, erego greater energy savings in processing. It's already a given that diesels are more fuel efficient and yield greater torque, cubic inch for cubic inch in comparison to gasoline. As for the use of statiionary diesels such as generators, they are the best targets for clean technologies due to their constant loads - no vast pendulemic swings due to constant swings of fuel loading. This means that they can be dialed into their greatest efficiency level for emissions equipment using a minimum effort and maintenance program. Sounds as if your objectionist is more interested in doing nothing than doing what is immediately available. Wonder how many more people have to die before he/she gets his/her mind out of the proverbial back pocket? Todd Swearingen ----- Original Message ----- From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:53 PM Subject: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator > I was speaking with environmentalists about the arguments for and > against the concept of clean diesel technologies, and one voiced > strong objections to the concept. > > While I think that clean diesel has a strong place in my thinking, I > wanted to focus a little bit on this idea of using biodiesel in a > traditional diesel generator, such as we might use at a home or site, > as a backup or primary generator. > > Does anyone here have any views on these generators... which have > gotten better, which are reliable... Do any work particularly well > with biofuels? Problems? What about if you use it as a backup > generator.... if you have biofuels, are they a problem compared to > dino-diesel in terms of sitting for a very long time and then being > required to work? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! 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