>Hi Gene, >this is a whole new aspect to run my Gen.The WVO i have at the >moment is very clean,but thick.haeting up the Fuel is no problem >either.but i can not erford to take a chance to kill my motor!! i >need to be shure,is there any input of the Motorexperts? > >Fritz
Hi Fritz What kind of motor is it? You said 100KVA, what else? New or old? Direct injection or indirect injection? An old Lister-type diesel will burn just about anything, but a new DI diesel might not like SVO/WVO, even if it's a generator. This isn't about generators, but it might apply: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_TDI.html The TDI-SVO controversy Best Keith > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Gene Chaffin > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 1:20 AM > Subject: RE: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator > > > Guys, please don't waste the money on chemicals converting wvo to biodiesel > to burn in a stationary genset. Just heat it up to 120oF, filter it down to > ten microns and then burn it directly in the genset using the jacket water > to heat the vo up to 200oF for the final burning in the genset. I have over > 2000 hours of burning wvo this way and it works excellently. Save the > biodiesel process for your Mercedes Turbodiesel. Good luck. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Friedrich Friesinger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 8:32 AM > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator > > > Hi all, > with arriving of spring,my project of running my 100KVA Generator with > Biodiesel gets closer to be realiced. > I am still confused why we should separate the WVO prior to esterification > from Water,if by the other hand we should wash the oil after with water > (bubblewash) > My guess is that esterification will not work well if there is water in the > WVO but in washing after dont i saturate my oil again with water? > Is it that the Water separates easy after esterification? > What about the cleaned out stuff from the bubblewash? does this stuff has to > be skinned of from the "clean" oil or wath happens to it? > Lots of questions to be answerd,i still have some times bevor i can > start,messing with my oil since the temperatur is still at a chilly 0 to 5 > degree C > some coaching on my pilotproject would be verry apreciated > thanks for any help > Fritz > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Robert Del Bueno > To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, April 25, 2004 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator > > > Has anyone compiled an emission per Kwh (or Mwh) comparison between > generation from coal fired power plant, diesel genset on b100, and b100 > powered micro-turbines? > -Rob > > > At 06:24 PM 4/23/2004 -0500, you wrote: > >Big difference between being committed to "...exploring clean energy > >options..." and being comitted to implementing them. > > > >The latter is where a great deal of optimism is eternally buffered. > > > >One is lovely conversation over cocktails. The other is best served up > with > >sweat. > > > >Todd Swearingen > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > >Sent: Friday, April 23, 2004 9:52 AM > >Subject: Re: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator > > > > > > > Well, the objectionist I spoke to is very committed to exploring clean > > > energy options, and I have seen them put a lot of their personal money > > > and time where their mouth is. > > > > > > I think they are more optimistic than that as to the advent of H2, and > > > have spoken to some of the professional environmentalists who are > > > against the concept of clean diesel. > > > > > > But in any event, thank you for laying this all out for me, and I will > > > pass it on to those who might benefit from it. I know all this stuff > > > seems obvious to you, but one of the reasons I quoted this person is > > > because his views represent some of those of the more well-intended. > > > He is simply lost in many of the other technological arguments. > > > > > > I think we also saw this when Kerry mentioned clean diesel favorably a > > > year or two ago. Can't think of one environmentally-minded > > > organization or person who spoke in defense of his views. There were > > > probably some. Then he just had to back off. > > > > > > So, the anti-diesel views may rankle you and other knowledgeables, but > > > they are still somewhat widespread and established amongst some > > > Greens. > > > > > > One thing. You write: > > > > > > ... > > > >Manufacture of distillate fuel oils is less energy intensive than > > > >manufacture of gasolines, erego greater energy savings in processing. > > > > > > > >It's already a given that diesels are more fuel efficient and yield > >greater > > > >torque, cubic inch for cubic inch in comparison to gasoline. > > > ... > > > > > > This has been a lingering question in my mind. There are a couple of > > > reasons for this. I wonder as to the beginning product (crude) and > > > the end product(s) (gasoline, diesel, and other products) and how much > > > energy is used to make them. And then I wonder how we are measuring > > > the power and energy efficiencies of gasoline vs. Diesel generation, > > > as to amounts of either fuel, since they have different mass > > > densities. I'd like to see a comparison of a given mass vs. a given > > > mass, and how much energy either has. I don't know if you'd measure > > > this in "moles" or pounds-adjusted-to-represent-mass-instead-of-weight > > > or what. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >As for the use of statiionary diesels such as generators, they are > the > >best > > > >targets for clean technologies due to their constant loads - no vast > > > >pendulemic swings due to constant swings of fuel loading. This means > that > > > >they can be dialed into their greatest efficiency level for emissions > > > >equipment using a minimum effort and maintenance program. > > > > > > > >Sounds as if your objectionist is more interested in doing nothing > than > > > >doing what is immediately available. > > > > > > > >Wonder how many more people have to die before he/she gets his/her > mind > >out > > > >of the proverbial back pocket? > > > > > > > >Todd Swearingen > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > > > >From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> > > > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:53 PM > > > >Subject: [biofuel] using biodiesel in a diesel generator > > > > > > > > > > > >> I was speaking with environmentalists about the arguments for and > > > >> against the concept of clean diesel technologies, and one voiced > > > >> strong objections to the concept. > > > >> > > > >> While I think that clean diesel has a strong place in my thinking, > I > > > >> wanted to focus a little bit on this idea of using biodiesel in a > > > >> traditional diesel generator, such as we might use at a home or > site, > > > >> as a backup or primary generator. > > > >> > > > >> Does anyone here have any views on these generators... which have > > > >> gotten better, which are reliable... Do any work particularly well > > > >> with biofuels? Problems? What about if you use it as a backup > > > >> generator.... if you have biofuels, are they a problem compared to > > > >> dino-diesel in terms of sitting for a very long time and then being > > > >> required to work? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
