Brian,

> although I have
> also heard of another interesting method using a soft drink bottle
> (PET) for gentle washing and once turned upside down also allows for
> the water to be slowly removed

You can use the pop-up cap found on water bottles at your grocer as the
"valve" for drainage.

This turns any PET bottle into a separative funnel.

It takes a little practice to get the "valve" to trickle properly, but it
does work superbly.

Todd Swearingen

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "biobenz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 7:38 PM
Subject: [biofuel] Re: Finally, biodiesel questions


> Todd is right Brian. Start out with small test batches using the one
> step method, and yes the Grolsch bottles DO hold up well to
> methoxide.
> I have taken to doing half liter test batches (500ml) instead of
> full liter and simply divide everything by two. It works. I wash in
> a Masson jar and use a large opaque serynge to drain,although I have
> also heard of another interesting method using a soft drink bottle
> (PET) for gentle washing and once turned upside down also allows for
> the water to be slowly removed; a sort of valve using your thumb
> thing. I have yet to try this. I attempted it with a two litter
> bottle but it didn't (I) very well so not being a soft drink drinker
> I now have to get ahold of a 1 liter bottle and try it.
> 100ml methanol wih whatever titration amounts of catalyst into the
> Grolsch bottle, agitate, set, warm up your oil to processing temp
> (130F) and get the blender ready. Once the methopxide is completely
> ready and the oil is still at 130F put it in the blender and turn it
> on(put the lid on) open the little central pop up top in the middle
> and slowly add the methoxide, set your timer to 15-18 minutes and
> once done pout into whatever settling container you have decided on.
> After seperation, wash the biodiesel using your method of choice and
> set aside the glycerine for further use (soap, methoxide recovery
> ect... apparently it is also a top rate degreaser, although I've not
> tried that yet)
>
> Have fun.
>
> Luc
>
>
> --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Brian,
> >
> > You really ought to heed the advice of others and practice
> considerably with
> > the straight base process before moving to acid/base.
> >
> > Doing so will familiarize you with what to expect and what
> transpires when
> > basic principles aren't adhered to. Those "mistakes" also give
> better
> > understanding of how and where adjustments can be made and for
> what reasons.
> >
> > People who put the cart before the
> horse ...................................
> >
> > Todd Swearingen
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Friday, May 28, 2004 9:23 AM
> > Subject: [biofuel] Finally, biodiesel questions
> >
> >
> > > Hello all.
> > >
> > > After a month or two hanging out on the list, I have finally
> overcome
> > > supplier hassles, financial constraints, being out of town
> > > unexpectedly for my mother's funeral, etc., and am now ready to
> start
> > > making some biodiesel.  I am planning some test batches for this
> > > weekend using Canola oil that I have been hoarding for a couple
> of
> > > months.  My initial questions relate to using what I have on
> hand to
> > > run the test batches.
> > >
> > > A while back, a person mentioned using Grolsch bottles to mix
> > > methoxide for test batches.  I have a similar bottle from some
> > > marinade, which has a rubber o-ring type seal on the stopper.
> Do the
> > > Grolsch bottles also use rubber seals, and if so, has this
> caused any
> > > problems in methoxide mixing?
> > >
> > > Also, I am using the two step process, and for a 1 liter test
> batch
> > > will need to measure 1 ml of H2SO4, if I remember the process
> > > correctly.  (Don't worry, I will be checking everything out on
> the
> > > JTF site before starting, to assure that I have everything
> right.)  I
> > > have standard plastic syringes available, and wanted to assure
> that
> > > using these to measure the H2SO4 wouldn't cause a problem.
> > >
> > > Thanks to all for the help to this point.  I'll keep you
> informed as
> > > I progress.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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