>Whoops. This was supposed to be a reply to Keith to a response he >left in the "oil an dIsrael" thread. How I managed to respond to >the wrong reply, I don't know.
:-) It wasn't you Brian, it was the computer. I'll change the heading and put the previous message back again instead of the wrong one. >Brian > >--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Keith, > > > > As always, it seems that the solutions lie more in the efforts of > > individuals rather than government programs that funnel money to > > those who need it less while ignoring those in actual need. Yes, too often if not quite always. Horses designed by committees (fine beasts, camels). It often takes individuals too to hassle the government programs so some of it at least ends up in the right place. Trouble is that if the programs dry up the individual efforts usually can't take up the slack. The other trouble is that even when they work wonderfully such programs only address the symptoms, and they're seldom met by effective measures that deal with the true causes. >In > > Indy, there is a program called Second Helpings which is doing >great > > work. I was sure I had some information on them but I can't find it right now. Second Harvest, yes, which is in the links at the end of the "Hunger In America" article I posted: Second Harvest http://www.secondharvest.org Good folks. Also Bread For The World http://www.bread.org/ See especially "Hunger Basics": http://www.bread.org/hungerbasics/index.html Best wishes Keith >They "rescue" food about to be discarded by foodservice, >and > > prepare something on the order of 10,000 meals per year. Some of > > these meals are served at fancy banquets to pay expenses, while > > others are provided to the hungry. In the process, people without > > job skills are provided a stipend to live while being trained for > > jobs in foodservice. These are chef and management training > > programs, not dishwasher training, and graduates actually are able > > to get jobs that pay enough for them to live. All of this is done > > without any public money, relying only on sales of food that > > otherwise would have gone to waste. It's a small drop in the >bucket > > when it comes to the problem in Indy, but the benefit to those >they > > serve is far greater than any of the programs Darryl has been able > > to find in his web search. > > > > Brian > > >>--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, "Darryl Wagoner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>wrote: >> (not to mention over $200 billion >> > > spent when children go >> > > hungry without health care right here in America). I >> > > for one expect a >> > > higher standard of proof and reason then we got from >> > > this administration. >> > >> > Yes, let's not mention it because it isn't true! There are all >>sorts of >> > food programs for children in this country and free or low cost >>health >> > insurance for children. Any hungry children or ones in need of >>medical >> > are in that condition because the parent(s) refuse to ask for help! >> > >> >> >>You don't work in social services do you? I can state with >>certainty that there are many children in inner city Indianapolis >>that don't have enough quality food to eat or access to adequate >>health care. I know because I see their parents on a daily basis. >>And, believe me, their parents ask repeatedly for help. It's just >>not available. I also know for a fact that these problems exist to >>an even greater degree in the isolation of rural areas right here in >>our own country. So, before you go spouting about what is and isn't >>true, please check the facts. >> >>Brian > >Hello Brian > >Very Victorian view, eh? - if they're poor/hungry it's their own fault. Ugly. > >This below might be useful, it's well-referenced and >well-corroborated, further resources linked at the end. The response >to such information from people who share Darryl's views is usually >denial though, they label it as "liberal BS" or whatever and dismiss >it. They prefer their cherished notions. As journalists often say, >don't let the facts f*** up a good story. > >Best wishes > >Keith > > >http://www.fhfh.org/hunger.html >FHFH - Hunger In America > >Despite a booming economy, a stock market that reached historic >heights in the last decade and reports of welfare reform success, >wages for many Americans have simply not risen fast enough to cover >the increased cost of living. To these Americans, food has become an >unaffordable luxury. In the past year, of those people seeking >emergency food relief, 35% - that's more than 1 in 3 - had to choose >between paying their rent and buying food. > >Based on the Census Bureau survey, USDA estimates that in 2000, 10.5 >million U.S. households were food insecure, meaning that they did >not have access to enough food to meet their basic needs. About 33 >million people lived in these households, including 20 million >adults and 13 million children. Hunger in America has, and continues >to be, a real problem for a significant part of our population. > >Hunger In America: Hard Facts > > More than one-third (38%) of families leaving welfare >reported that they ran out of food and did not have money for more. >(Urban Institute - 2001) > > Approximately 7 million different people receive assistance >in any given week (America's Second Harvest - 2001) > > 96,000,000,000 pounds of food is thrown away each year by the >Food Service Industry. (Source: FoodChain ) > > 33.6 million people including almost 13 million children live >in households that experience hunger or the risk of hunger. This >represents approximately one in ten households in the United States >(10.7 percent). (Bread for the World Institute - 2002) > >According to the U.S. Census Bureau, one in five children >(approximately 15 million) in our nation live at or below the >poverty line. In 1997, nearly two-thirds of poor young children >lived in working families and young child poverty is growing fastest >in the suburbs. In total, an alarming 22% of young children in >America live in poverty. > >Children who are denied an adequate diet are at a greater risk than >other low income children of not reaching their full potential as >individuals. Children who are undernourished have trouble >concentrating and bonding with other children and are more likely to >suffer illnesses that force them to be absent from school. They >consistently perform more poorly on standardized tests. Poor >performance early in school is a major risk factor for dropping out >of school in later years. According to labor statistics, educational >attainment is perhaps the greatest indicator of job and income >mobility, so the impact of childhood hunger can be lifelong. Studies >have also shown time and time again that even mildly undernourished >children may potentially suffer abnormal brain, cognitive, and >psychological impairment that, if not corrected, can be >irreversible. > >Children And Hunger: Hard Facts > > 10.5 percent of all U.S. households, representing 20 million >adults and 13 million children, were "food insecure" because of lack >of resources (U.S. Census Bureau survey -2000) > > Over 9 million children are the recipients of food from >either a pantry, kitchen or shelter. (America's Second Harvest - >2001) > > 22.2% of shelter clients indicated that their child/children >was/were hungry at least once during the previous 12 months but >couldn't afford more food. (America's Second Harvest - 2001) > > Between 2000 and 2001, requests for emergency food assistance >increased by an average of 23% in American cities, with 54% of >requests coming from families with children. (U.S. Conference of >Mayors) ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Yahoo! Domains - Claim yours for only $14.70 http://us.click.yahoo.com/Z1wmxD/DREIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
