Randall,
This make me laugh and get very angry at the same time. You talk about the attempts to discredit the source instead of arguments, when it comes to yourself. When I then look at the argument, it is about that you tried to discredit the source instead of the arguments. LOL What made me angry is your blatant disrespect for human lives and your playing with numbers, as if it is some kind of valid arguments. One innocent "collateral" causality is one too much. Any other view is inhuman and arrogant, because I say so. It is not possible to justify anything based on higher or lower numbers of death. If the reason stinks, it cannot be justified in any way and any reason for killing people have some smell to it. Have you ever considered to take a job on a Circus. It seems that you are a natural talent for argubatic. Hakan At 01:58 02/07/2004, you wrote: >I applaud your attempt to discredit the source rather than to make any >attempt whatsoever to discredit the arguement or the premise itself. But >here are some more reputable sources, irregardless of the fact that the >site I linked had a number of reference sources. > >http://denver.rockymountainnews.com/shooting/0422nra3.shtml > >And here is the link of how Moore edited hestons speech entirely and >spliced the sentences to create an entirely new speech. > >http://www.hardylaw.net/Bowlingtranscript.html > >He has a link on there with the actual transcript, and you can throw in >BFC if you want to check Moore's new version. And here is another >anti-Moore link corraborating the Flint incident. I don't need a source >for that though, slow down your DVD player and do it frame by frame. Moore >puts together a sequence of scenes to make it look like Heston is in Flint >immediately after the death of the little girl. He actually says "Just as >he did after the Columbine shooting, Charlton Heston showed up in Flint, >to have a big pro-gun rally." > >But, from: > http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=859 > "When I spoke to Moore last week, he confirmed Hardy's point about the > date of the speech, but angrily denied the allegation that he had misled > viewers." > > Moore actually admits the date was off. How does he get off saying he > didn't try to mislead people. > > As for the civilian casualties, there are only a reported maximum of > about 11,300 according to > http://www.iraqbodycount.net > Most of the deaths are by cluster bombs and the initial missile attacks. > But go check out the database, those suicide and car bombers are killing > more Iraqi's than americans. When you kill 30-100 people per bomb trying > to get back at the American's, your seriously hurting your own people. > Given the 325,000 killed in Vietnam and lets not forget the millions from > WWII. I do not condone the civilian deaths, and I think we still have a > long way to go, but war does have casualties, and I think there were > significant improvements so far. > >Randall Sanborn ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Make a clean sweep of pop-up ads. Yahoo! Companion Toolbar. Now with Pop-Up Blocker. Get it for free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/L5YrjA/eSIIAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
