Hi.  Keith
As a matter of curiosity, why is it that with oil prices so high today,
there is not more concerted effort on
the part of the big oil companies to look into this biodiesel? It would seem
from reading the email coming my way from the biofuel group, that all such
efforts in North America are concentrated in independent  individuals.

Is it because that the raw material for such production, i.e. WVO, and pure
vegetable oil,  are not in sufficient viable supply?  Is the flash point of
biodiesel very low as to be dangerous to handle for the general public to
use? Is it because the production process still makes it quite expensive
still vis a vis the usual diesel being used today in vehicles?

Are there not big time commercial makers and sellers and exporters of such
biofuel or biodiesel today in North America? Is the biodiesel still not
economically viable for the big  corporations to get into it.

  Many thanks for your enlightenment.

----- Original Message -----
From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: My view on diesel cars, and a notable event.


> Hello Josephine, welcome
>
> When you joined you were sent a "Welcome" message listing a whole
> bunch of useful resources which will tell you everything you need to
> know and more. If you've lost it, you can find the same resources
> listed here:
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> Or just go to the links at the end of every message you receive - to
> Journey to Forever and the list's archives.
>
> >please pardon my ignorance.  I am a new member.  What is WVO
>
> "Waste Vegetable Oil". It's not a very good name because it usually
> contains residues of animal fats, fish oils etc from what's been
> cooked in it, but the name has stuck, everybody uses it now. Opposite
> is "SVO" - Straight Vegetable Oil, uncooked, new, "virgin". In Europe
> SVO is usually called PPO - Pure Plant Oil. "Crude" oils are as they
> come from the plant, unrefined, such as Crude Palm Oil - CPO. I don't
> like acronyms, but these are in common usage now.
>
> >and who is NBB?
>
> The National Biodiesel Board in the US, which was formed by soy
> interests and largely controlled by the big corporations involved in
> industrialised soy production. I suppose you can regard the NBB as
> the trade association of the big, centralised commercial biodiesel
> producers in the US. They're not very popular with small-scale
> producers and home-scale producers, for good reason. There's a good
> database of biodiesel information at their website though.
>
> >What is feedstock?
>
> The raw material you use in any production process. In producing
> biodiesel, the feedstock is the type of oil used, whether WVO or SVO,
> from soy, sunflower, rapeseed, or whatever.
>
> >Thanks for the enlightenment.
>
> You're welcome, hope it helps.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Keith
>
>
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 12:01 PM
> >Subject: [biofuel] Re: My view on diesel cars, and a notable event.
> >
> >
> > > Hello Pierre
> > >
> > > >Keith,
> > > >
> > > >I am looking for reports comparing emissions from virgin vegoil
> > > >biodiesel and watse oil biodiesel.
> > > >
> > > >I have left a couple of messages here and there.
> > > >
> > > >Do you have any leads?
> > >
> > > No I don't. The EPA accepted the NBB's data on virgin soy biodiesel
> > > as equivalent to all the rest, whatever the feedstock, including WVO.
> > > Big-time European producers commonly use WVO, the standards are
> > > strict there. Why would there be a difference? Unless it's badly
> > > made, not washed properly.
> > >
> > > Best wishes
> > >
> > > Keith
> > >
> > >
> > > >Pierre
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > And this is interesting:
> > > > >
> > > > > The UC Davis biodiesel study -- "Chemical and Bioassay Analyses of
> > > > > Diesel and Biodiesel Particulate Matter: Pilot Study -- Final
> > > >Report"
> > > > > by Norman Y. Kado, Robert A. Okamoto and Paul A. Kuzmicky,
> > > >Department
> > > > > of Environmental Toxicology, University of California, Davis,
> > > > > California, November 1996. This U.S. Department of Energy study
> > > >found
> > > > > that the use of pure biodiesel instead of petroleum-based diesel
> > > >fuel
> > > > > could offer a 93.6% reduction in cancer risks from exhaust
> > > >emissions
> > > > > exposure. Acrobat file, 3.1Mb.
> > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/UCDavisBiodiesel.pdf
> > > > > UC Davis biodiesel study -- summary: the Summary, Results and
> > > > > Discussion sections of the report, in html format.
> > > > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/UCDavisSumm.html
> > > > >
> > > > > Best wishes
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith
>
>
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