Hallo Terry, This is a general comment and not directed at you or anyone in particular.
There are 2 things I do not understand about this discussion. First, is it not enough that a list moderator explains a rule of the list and asks that it be adhered to? If a moderator told me that on this list we do such and such and do not allow such and such I would conform to the regs of the list whether I liked them or not. This only seems reasonable to me. If it offended me that much I would unsubscribe. As it is I think the moderators have good, solid reasoning behind the rules which guide the list. Second, I am wondering who it hurts if Keith pulls the appleseed processor data off JtF. I don't see it as particularly hurting either JtF in general or Keith in particular but the biofuel community instead. Whatever girl marks intentions it appears to be an instance of "It's my ball and you can't play with it." which only serves to limit what is available to the biofuel community. I guess I have a third thought and that is that there are enough people out there who have no concept of conservation or right use of resources and we really don't need in-fighting and division among those of us who have a conscience which is environmentally and socially aware. Happy Happy, Gustl Thursday, 26 August, 2004, 14:36:52, you wrote: ngc> I can understand that, perhaps, because of Mark's passion she got a bit overzealous in ngc> referencing the more dynamic forum for the information. A single site is definitely easier ngc> to maintain than multiple ones. Her private requests for a link to the single source were ngc> (IMO discourteously) ignored. ngc> I can also understand Keith wanting to prevent information resources from becoming ngc> diluted. JTF provides quite a wealth of information. ngc> I think you both want the same thing for our community. The easiest to find, most meaty, ngc> and up-to-date information possible. ngc> So if there is a more dynamic and up-to-date forum for a particular type of information, ngc> why, instead of dead-ending them with static and possibly out-dated info, would we not ngc> provide newcomers to our community that resource? Dilution, right? ngc> I did find only one biodiesel processor article (on JTF) with a link back to a home page. ngc> That is Dale Scroggins' processor. Is a link to a possibly stagnant homepage ngc> acceptable, but one to a vibrant community initiative unacceptable? ngc> I'm just trying to understand Keith's apparent lack of accomodation for a fellow activist. ngc> (And if your going to say, Keith, that it's just a matter of Netiquette I say hogwash. IMO ngc> Mark's references to her chosen homepage were not that far out of line; again IMO.) ngc> So Keith, are you laying claim to the article at http://journeytoforever. ngc> org/biodiesel_processor8.html ? ngc> If not, then I think you should honor the author's wishes and either link it or remove it. ngc> If you are laying claim to it, well, whatever ... ngc> Terry ngc> --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Hello Ken >> >> >On Wednesday, August 25, 2004, at 02:02 PM, Keith Addison wrote: >> > >> > > It is not list infighting. The correct place for it is onlist, and >> > > that's where it will be. >> > > >> > > >> > >> >Since it's onlist, would someone please tell me WHAT the >> >blah blahh it's all about? All the gory details, please, >> >or at least where in the archives I should look to get them. >> >> It was a Netiquette reminder, from me as list owner, not me as >> member, and it sparked an explosion. These two messages are what >> finally occasioned my call to order (there were many previous >> examples). >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37833/ >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37834/ >> >> This was my reply: >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37849/ >> >> Mark's two responses: >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37851/ >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37856/ >> >> My two responses to those: >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/37868/ >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/37866/ >> >> Mark's only response so far: >> >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/37883/ >> >> >All of a sudden this dispute showed up and I'd like to know >> >all the background. Both of you are behaving uncharacteristically, >> >> I'm not so sure about that. >> >> >and now I'm wondering what sort of offense would be required >> >to bring this on.... >> >> Repeated spamming. >> >> Regards >> >> Keith -- Je mehr wir haben, desto mehr fordert Gott von uns. Mitglied-Team AMIGA ICQ: 22211253-Gustli ******** The safest road to Hell is the gradual one - the gentle slope, soft underfoot, without sudden turnings, without milestones, without signposts. C. S. Lewis, "The Screwtape Letters" ******** Es gibt Wahrheiten, die so sehr auf der Stra§e liegen, da§ sie gerade deshalb von der gewšhnlichen Welt nicht gesehen oder wenigstens nicht erkannt werden. ******** Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music. George Carlin ******** The best portion of a good man's life - His little, nameless, unremembered acts of kindness and of love. William Wordsworth ------------------------ Yahoo! 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