Hello Tom >[Edited to change subject title from "Re: Digest Number 2307". >PLEASE change the title when you auto-reply to a message in the >Daily Digest. Nobody will read a message titled "Re: Digest Number >2262", it confuses the threads and fouls up archives searches >forever. Thankyou. List owner] > >Hello, > >Just a comment: > >Does everyone have to keep copying and posting the >complete article of websites and posting them to the >list?
They don't - have another look. Sometimes the full article is posted, sometimes just the link. This has been discussed previously several times. There's often good reason for posting the full article, but it's impossible to make a ruling on it either way that wouldn't chuck out a few babies with the bathwater. It has to be left to each member's discretion to decide on a case-by-case basis. I think they do it quite well. If you have a closer look, you'll see that my posts in particular refer to archives links whenever possible - these are previously posted messages in the list's Amazingly Useful independent archives. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Some of these links are to previous discussions, some to previously posted articles. Some articles previously posted in full have been referred to time and time again. It's very efficient, and makes the posting of the original article in full more than worthwhile - much bandwidth and lis clutter is saved this way. Again, web links change, and many of these articles are no longer to be found at their original links, but they're here for keeps in our archives for all to share. That's one case, there are many others. Can't make rules about it. >Can't this be stopped and just post the link and your >comments on it, so far It seems almost impossible to >develop good information from the list when a few >people seem to be just posting other peoples works I thought that might be more your problem. The Biofuel list isn't a high volume list (200-300 emails a day), just medium volume (about 30 or so messages a day). So if you can't handle the Biofuel list as an information resource then you need to improve your techniques. Sorry, not trying to lecture you, but I'm an information professional, I'd like to help, and quite a lot of people have trouble with this. One problem might be that you're using Yahoo. I confess I don't really know how it works - you have to collect messages at their website? You really need a proper email account that delivers email to your computer via a good email program (eg Eudora, or Outlook Express if you're careful about viruses). Then you have email filters that you can set, and search functions you can use to find data in what will soon grow into a VERY useful database on your own hard disk - or rather a set of databases, one for each mailing list you belong to. This is essential to handling mailing lists properly, IMO, and the Internet in general I think. As Gustl said, Daily Digests are not a good way of doing it, they only look like a good way at first, but they make the information less accessible, not more. Please have a look at this previous message on this subject, it might help you: http://archive.nnytech.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/21700/ Here's another way that a list member recommended - good! >I'm accustomed to the e-mail system and simply file messages I want >to keep in an archival folder. Everything else goes in the trash >after reading because I know it's all archived for my benefit, and >accessible when the need arises. (Thank you, thank you, thank you!) And yet another way from another member - BAD! "My solution is to monitor the in-box regularly printing those items of special interest (for a resource file), and deleting those postings which are not of specific interest." Printing??? Ulp... You can't grep dead trees. He hasn't realised what a computer does, and he hasn't discovered archives yet either. Another point that he misses, which the previous member doesn't miss, is that it's impossible to pre-judge which information will turn out to be useful and which not. On a computer it just doesn't matter - the more information there is in your database the more sheer depth it will have, while it won't make searching any slower, and current-model computer hard disks have plenty of space, 40Gb and more. (That's equivalent to 40,000 to 50,000 hard-copy books.) >sorry, but the emails are getting impossible to scroll >thru to find people that have new good info With a global membership of 2,900 people from more than a hundred different countries, there will be very many different interpretations of what is "new good info". But there's room for everybody and everything. Best wishes Keith >Ciao ! > >Tom ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> $9.95 domain names from Yahoo!. Register anything. http://us.click.yahoo.com/J8kdrA/y20IAA/yQLSAA/FGYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! 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