> Steve Spence wrote: > "Increased use of renewable energy and advancing efficient use of > renewable" fuels is a good thing. > > advancing efficient use of fossil fuels is only temporary step to > eliminating them. > > trading pollution credits does not make the above happen. If I'm doing "the > right thing", why should I trade those "credits" to allow someone else to do > the wrong thing. That cancels out the good I've done.
As I understand it there's a monetary value to those credits. I pay you for doing the right thing because I didn't or pay a larger fine. Your customers are happy and mine aren't due increased costs. You reinvest and I jump through hoops -or- sell out at a possible loss increasing your worth and competitive edge. > I'll tell you what, > I'll vote for Kerry, Now your talking. > so that you can vote for bush ..... That's bad, bad..... very bad. > > ----- Previous Message ----- > > > > Steve Spence wrote: > > Carbon trading of course is just a scam to allow you to buy polluting rights > > from others while pretending everyone has a right to pollute just a little. > > > > Carbon trading is not a good thing! > Increased use of renewable energy and advancing efficient > use of renewable and fossil fuels is not a good trade off > regarding climate change? > > > Russia to ratify Kyoto treaty > > > > > > Putin joins fight against climate change, leaving Bush > > > isolated and US cut out of carbon trading market > > > > > > Paul Brown, environment correspondent > > > Oct 1, 2004 > > > The Guardian > > > http://www.guardian.co.uk/russia/article/0,2763,1317289,00.html > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > EMS UPDATE - Sept 30, 2004 > > > > > > > > > KYOTO CLEARS LAST HURDLE > > > > > > The Russian cabinet approved the ratification of the Kyoto global warming > > > treaty today. Russia's ratification means the Kyoto Protocol will enter > > > into force as an internationally binding treaty in 2005. > > > > > > The treaty must still win the approval of Russia's lower parliament house, > > > but that is considered a virtual certainty. > > > > > > News stories & press releases: http://www.ems.org > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > > > SCIENTISTS BEGIN TOUR TO OPPOSE BUSH > > > > > > Scientists and Engineers for Change, a group that includes 10 Nobel > > > laureates, has begun a tour to battleground states to highlight the misuse > > > of science by the Bush administration. > > > > > > "I am not a Democrat and I have never played a significant role in > > > politics," said Dr. Douglas Osheroff, a Nobel-winning professor of physics > > > at Stanford who is a part of the group. "We must begin to address climate > > > change now. To do so, we must have an administration that listens to the > > > scientific community, not one that manipulates and minimizes scientific > > > input." > > > > > > Tour stops are scheduled for Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New > > > Mexico, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Oregon, Virginia and Wisconsin. > > > > > > Press release, news: http://www.ems.org > > > > > > > > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > > > > > STUDY: U.S. CAN END OIL USE > > > > > > A Pentagon-cofunded blueprint for making the United States oil-free, > > > released September 20 by the Rocky Mountain Institute (RMI), finds that by > > > 2015 the United States can save more oil than it gets from the Persian > > > Gulf -- and can eliminate its oil use altogether by 2050. The plan > > > achieves > > > a net cost savings for the United States and does not require taxation or > > > regulation. > > > > > > The plan, "Winning the Oil Endgame: Innovation for Profits, Jobs, and > > > Security," would eliminate half of U.S. oil use through improved > > > efficiency, > > > and the other half through the use of biofuels and natural gas. > > > > > > "Because saving and substituting oil costs less than buying it, our study > > > finds a net savings of $70 billion a year," said RMI CEO Amory Lovins. > > > > > > More: http://www.ems.org _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
