I had thought of the fact that the european cars might actually have more durable systems, but it also seems to me that there are far fewer muffler shops than there were years ago. The Volvos were built in Europe. If I remember correctly, the Beetles are assembled in Mexico, using parts from around the world but mostly Germany.
Brian > Brian. > many thanks for this. I think maybe that you're right. I also remember > repairing exhausts frequently as a youth and much younger man. What is > particularly interesting is that with beetles and volvo's you are talking > about european cars. Are they imports or manufactured there under licence? > > Don Johnston > Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council > Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group > > Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards 2002 > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tel: 023 9283 4247 > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 12 October 2004 12:57 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel additives > > > Don, > > I'm in the Midwest of the US. I'm currently driving my first diesel, an > 03 Beetle TDI which currently has about 65,000 miles. I typically buy B2, > which is the only blend available locally at this point. I am currently > in central Indiana, with a move to northern CA planned around the first of > the year. My prior car was a gas 2000 Beetle, which I gave to my son at > 95,000 and still has its original exhaust at about 110,000. Prior to that > were two Volvos, a '94 940 and '95 850, both of which went over 100,000 > with the original exhaust. > > My perception is that the manufacturers are using better materials now > that they were when I first started driving. I don't know how many days I > spent in muffler shops in my youth, but I haven't seen the inside of one > for quite a while at this point. > > Brian > >> Brian, thanks for that. >> Were they petrol or diesel? Are you on biofuel? And where are you? UK or >> US, or elsewhere? >> >> Don Johnston >> Environmental Coordinator , Portsmouth City Council >> Chair, Solent Energy and Environment Management Group >> >> Winner ; National Champion-Science and Technology, Green Apple Awards >> 2002 >> >> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Tel: 023 9283 4247 >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Behalf Of Brian >> Sent: 12 October 2004 01:39 >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] fuel additives >> >> >> Years ago, it seemed that I always had to replace an exhaust at about >> 40,000 >> miles. It's been a long time since I've had to buy one, though, and >> have >> had over 100,000 miles on each of my last several cars. >> >> Brian >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Erik Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Monday, October 11, 2004 5:34 PM >> Subject: RE: [Biofuel] fuel additives >> >> >>> >>> --- "Johnston, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> 124k miles on original exhaust seems exceptional to >>>> me, >>> >>> really?? is this also the experience of other people? >>> i have quite a few cars here that have 100-200k on >>> gasoline engines with the original exhaust and it's in >>> good condition. and there's one with a rusted out >>> muffler that has about 170k on it. >>> >>> and the diesels range from 150-300k + with no problems >>> yet. i suspect that diesel fuel doesn't have the same >>> problems that gas engines experience, but i don't >>> really know. >>> >>> all numbers are in US miles. >>> >>> erik >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________ >>> Do you Yahoo!? >>> Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! >>> http://vote.yahoo.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Biofuel mailing list >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >>> >>> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>> Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >>> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> >> >> ********************************************************** >> This e-mail is for the intended recipient only. >> If an addressing, transmission or other error has >> misdirected this e-mail, please notify the author >> by replying to this e-mail. >> If you are not the intended recipient you must not >> use, disclose, distribute, copy, print, or reply to this >> email. >> This e-mail may be monitored, read, recorded and >> retained by Portsmouth City Council. >> E-mail monitoring/blocking software may be used. >> >> ********************************************************** >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >> http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
