Any authorized VW repair island can fix an '86 Dub just as well as a mechanic specializing in diesel Dubs 1,000 miles distant from your home. While the rules of rebuild warranty are a bit different from factory warranties, that doesn't mean that repairs ("if" needed) can't be accomplished at some distance from the mechanic that did the original rebuild.

As for a $7,000 price tag on a restore/rebuild? We actually calculate the cost around $6,000, including paint, rust-proofing, wind-screen reinstallations and new weather stripping. That also includes a rebuilt motor (non-turbo, mechanical lifters) and transmission, new clutch, new front and rear struts, brakes, wheel bearings, flushed coolant and heater cores and electrical harness if needed. I think you could get a pair of bucket seats and rear seats reupholstered with the paltry $1,000 left over. Maybe they'd throw in a pair of fuzzy dice for free?

As to your need for grow lights? Uhhhhh.....is that "sustainable?"

If they're mandatory, you might care to look at some of the T-5 lamps/fixtures that are available now in full spectrum. They're starting to make their way out of the new-construction/retrofit markets and into the greenhouse circuit. Darned things will half-blind a mammal but plants are suppposed to luv 'em. They're considerably less energy hogs than the greenhouse industry norms up to this point.

Todd Swearingen


----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 30, 2004 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New Car


Greetings Todd,

If I lived any where near you, I would definitely follow your plan. However, the towing bill to get my vehicle back to the mechanic, if it did break, would eat up all the savings. I will not have my mechanic for another 3 years, and the savings on the car wouldn't be enough to get him home earlier. Does that $7000.00 you are quoting cover the reupholstering that would be needed as well? In the Texas heat, the cushions on the seats wear our real fast and old vehicles down here are real uncomfortable unless you strip them and rebuild. Bodies rust, very quickly from the high humidity and salt content in all the water and environment, so I assume a good paint job is extra. I have several friends who would like a diesel and can not afford a new one. They may be interested. However, the banks down here will not finance a vehicle over 10 years old.

And actually, the car is closer to 2/3 of the mortgage on this place. But I only finaced the land, no house payment. I have built the place cash, and yes, my walk in fridge/freezer will be done by the end of 2006. I am still working on many design elements, so I am not sure exactly what I want for many of my projects. Last months electric bill was down to $48.4 using 477 kwh. Considering that I have to use grow lights to keep my stevia and other tropicals healthy during the short day, I think this is doing rather well.

Bright Blessings,
Kim



At 09:09 PM 12/29/2004, you wrote:
Hellow Kim,

Sounds as if you're dead set on getting this car.

If you want to reconsider before Friday, I know a jolly good VW diesel mechanic who's second favorite love is putting rebuilt Dubs back on the road. He's presently working on exchanging a sodden gas block with a turbo diesel in his fiance's Jetta. He put a largely rebuilt Golf on the road this summer for a close friend of mine. I probably feel about her security the same way your husband feels about yours, which says a lot as to how good his work is. It's done close to 20,000 miles in five months with only a minor rear wheel bearing blip.

I happen to know a peculiar bird who's got three Golfs sitting in the wings waiting to be stripped and rebuilt.

I just hate to see someone drop a third of a mortgage on a horseless carriage. Saving ~$13,000 goes a long way towards photovoltaic, thermal collectors and a wind turbine - not to mention the super-insulated, walk-in, solar-fired, freezer/refrigerator that you've had a yen for.

Todd Swearingen

----- Original Message ----- From: "Kim & Garth Travis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2004 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] New Car


Greetings Todd,

As you stated yourself, IF in capital letters, I knew a decent mechanic. I know a lot of rip off artists, quasi capable of oil change high charge ones but no one I would trust. I have watched too many friends try going the route of the rebuild to even think of going there. When one lives in the middle of nowhere, this option can be very tough. My car has to be super dependable. I travel the highway at night and there are lots of areas where there is no cell phone coverage, if I did carry one.

The only reason I am getting a new car now, is that I want a diesel. I know that older does not mean DOA. I am currently driving a 1992 Honda that I am selling to a very close friend. My capital cost on that car has been less than $1000/year. I hope to keep the Golf long enough to match that number. The only reason I bought a new car in 1992, was that my previous one was black with no AC and I moved from Edmonton, Canada to Texas. A change in vehicle was required. I buy new, take good care of the vehicle and try to wear it out. Hubby will be retired before this vehicle is done with, so I will have my own mechanic to keep things going.

I want a 4 door car, my Mom comes to visit and she no longer fits in the back seat of a 2 door. At 77, I don't expect her to. The back seat of the Golf is nice and comfortable.

Yes, the car is fully loaded with all kinds of electronic gadgets. And yes, I do know from my experience with my Honda that they will quit working at about 100,000 miles. Fully loaded, sun roof, heated seats, [why this option in Texas is beyond me] CD player, ad nauseam the car is 19,585. No interest, I am paying cash. This price is only good until Friday morning, next week it is back at sticker price. That inventory tax can help one buy a car at a good deal, but there is not much selection when it come to color.

I used to participate in Parking lot racing in Canada, years ago and I love rack and pinion steering. I have a truck for driving on back roads and in the field. I am not putting a trailer hitch on this car, like the Honda had.

Bright Blessings,
Kim

At 09:00 PM 12/28/2004, you wrote:
Kim,

I don't believe VW offers the TDI in a GL 2-door package. You'll have to go 4-door. Diesel option runs ~$1,400.

Also, there is no diesel option other than turbo, unlike years past where turbo/non-turbo was an option.

Comes with a cat. You might want to ask about specific diesel fuel requirements (ultra-low sulfur, low sulfur, etc.) to preserve the life of the cat.

MSRP + tax (7%), tag & title for a bare bones bucket of bolts would be ~$19,000. That includes the discount for present VW owners. Doesn't take into consideration any specific dealer incentives.

About the only things I would say in favor of a newer model is that they have air bags and 4-wheel-disc ABS brakes. Way too many electric-remote-this-and-thats which will start to go belly up around the 100,000 mile mark (or sooner). Certainly I'm no fan of the hydraulic-assist, rack and pinion steering. Too much opportunity for over-steer in an adverse situation, experienced drivers or not.

Were it me, and I had a qualified VW diesel mechanic in my stable of friends (still paying him or her the going rate) I'd rebuild an '85 or '86 from scratch. There are a lot of 'em out there that have no rust and still run. Put in a rebuilt engine and you've got a spare that can be turned into a backup generator. No worries about the automatic this-and-thats on older models. Same fuel economy as a new model.

Just depends if you have the cash up front to pour into a restore/rebuild or if the monthly payments (hopefully a super low APR) fit your bank account better.

Patience could save you ~$13,000 and a lot of future interests and maintenance costs. Besides, newer doesn't necessarily mean better and older doesn't necessarily mean "DOA."

Todd Swearingen

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