thanx again keith - i guess i didn't click on all the links... by the way, a few of the links don't work (one of the gm links for sure...).
i would love to have a diesel hybrid car - hopefully in a few years in this country, eh? kenn > Hello Kenn > >> >>with the popularity of gas hybrids, i was wondering if it's possible >> to >> >>make a diesl hybrid? anyone know if it's being considered/designed??? >> >> >> >>thanx, kenn >> > >> > See: >> > http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20041227/004092.html >> > [Biofuel] More hybrid technology news >> > >> >>thanx keith - looks like only big trucks & buses; don't know if hybrid >>diesel cars are on the horizon?? > > Oops - you didn't follow the links, it's about hybrid diesel cars, not > buses. > > "The PNGV diesel hybrid cars were hitting 80 mpg when the program was > scrapped. I wonder if those were "real life application" figures?" > > And: > >>PNGV is here, about halfway down: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_future.html >>Do diesels have a future? > > That's here: > > The US government/industry collaboration Partnership for a New > Generation of Vehicles (PNGV), launched in 1993, was intended to > reduce carbon dioxide emissions by developing ultra-clean, 80 > miles-per-gallon (34 km/litre) "hypercars" without sacrificing > comfort, safety or performance, focusing on cleaner and more > efficient diesel engines. Details: > Technology Administration: Partnership for a New Generation of Vehicles > http://www.ta.doc.gov/PNGV-Archive/default.htm > Hybrid Electric Vehicles: Program Background > http://www.ott.doe.gov/hev/background.html > Hybrid Electric Vehicles: Related Links > http://www.ott.doe.gov/hev/related.html > Hybrid Electric Vehicles > http://www.ott.doe.gov/hev/ > > General Motors' Precept achieved the mileage goal -- 80 miles per > gallon. The car won the Popular Science "Best of What's New" Grand > Award for automotive technology for 2000. The full-size > five-passenger sedan is powered by two electric motors and a > high-efficiency diesel. Its drag coefficient is just 0.16. GM says > the Precept marks the leading edge of technology, and its design will > have a strong influence on future cars. See General Motors' Precept > Delivers on 80-mpg Promise: > http://gm.com/company/gmability/environment/gm_and_the_env/releases/ov > erview_release_10xx00.html > > Chrysler's stylish Dodge ESX3 lightweight diesel-electric hybrid, > part of the PNGV program, combines a direct-injection diesel with an > electric motor and an advanced battery to achieve 72 miles per gallon > (30 km/litre). The 5-seater body is made of thermoplastic -- the same > cheap plastic used to make soft-drink bottles. Carbon dioxide > emissions are 56% lower than a conventional petrol engine, with 50% > less particulate matter than a conventional diesel and 70% less > nitrogen oxides. Range is 420 miles (672 km). Unlike totally electric > vehicles, hybrids have unlimited driving range and never need to be > plugged in for recharging. See DaimlerChrysler unveils electric car: > http://detnews.com/2000/autos/0002/23/02230070.htm > > Ford's bid for the car of the future is the P2000 Prodigy 5-seater > sedan, an ultra-light diesel-electric hybrid that boosts fuel economy > to 63 miles per gallon (27 km/litre) and was expected to qualify as > an ultra low emissions vehicle. Part of the PNGV program. The 1.2 > litre, direct injection diesel DIATA engine is 35% more efficient > than an equivalent petrol engine. "Extremely fuel-efficient", and "A > giant advance toward the production of lightweight, environmentally > responsible vehicles with outstanding economy and emissions levels". > See Ford Hybrid Electric Vehicle is on horizon: > http://www.autoworld.com/news/Ford/Ford_Hybrid.htm > > The costs of the new hypercars came right down from that of the > earlier prototypes, but were still higher than production models. See > Super-High-Mileage Car Just a Concept, For Now, Washington Post, > August 17, 2001: > http://washingtonpost.com:80/wp-dyn/articles/A25087-2001Aug17.html > > Early in 2002 the PNGV program was axed by the Bush administration, > to be replaced with the "Freedom Car" program focusing on hydrogen > fuel-cells -- not expected to produce tangible results for a decade. > See Driving In Circles: New Fuel-Efficiency Initiative Is More PR > Than Progress: > http://www.tompaine.com/feature.cfm?ID=4959 > > Diesel hybrid cars. > > And here's why it was axed: > >>... Well, there and mouldering away on various back shelves in >>Detroit. And this explains why: >>http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/30857/ > > Those links are broken now, these ones will work: > >>Driving In Circles >>http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/10937/ > >>Fool Cells - How Detroit Plays Americans For A Bunch Of Suckers >>http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/20706/ > > See also the Mokhiber-Weissman review of Jack Doyle's book, "Taken > for a Ride: Detroit's Big Three and the Politics of Pollution": > http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2000/000031.html > > Best wishes > > Keith > > >>kenn >> >> > Follow the links. >> > >> > Best >> > >> > Keith > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): > http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > _______________________________________________________________ Save rainforest for free with a Planet-Save.com e-mail account: http://www.planet-save.com _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
