Common sense is actually quite uncommon in some circles. Most of the "free" energy people I have talked with seem to have a large emotional investment in their paradigm, be it concern about energy shortage to perceiving themselves as victims of a cabal. Your points are valid but I don't think the average Lutec fan will understand you. Great invention Keith. Will a Pepsi bottle work just as well? :) Kirk
Jurie Vorster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Not an expert in any particular field but common sense and a bit of logic tells me... 1) The "how-it-works" stuff claims that the *permanent* magnet provides energy in keeping the object suspended from the roof equating to a electromagnet holding it up there but expending energy instead. WELL, how would LUTEC explain the energy content of PERMANENT GLUE holding up the object... or what about hanging it from a PERMANENT HOOK that is screwed into the ceiling? 2) In the device, the magnets moves towards the steel thus giving inertial energy to the armature... then a counter electromagnetic field is applied to "neutralise" the magnetic properties of the steel thus allowing the permanent magnets to rotate past freely. This "neutralising" pulse needs to be long enough so that the next "step" can initiate or until the "back-step" that will slow down the magnets (thus reducing its inertial energy) pull is less than the "forward-step" pull. AT BEST, the amount of energy to "neutralise" the steel magnetic effect will equal the amount of inertial energy generated by the pull of the magnets towards the steel... no GAIN. Thus there will be only loss of total energy and the efficiency of the "smoothing" effect as per patent description will be related to the losses in the electronics to control the "neutralising" field coils and mechanical resistance etc... FUTURE DEVELOMENTS My theory is that if someone can find a MATERIAL that cuts or shield a magnetic field in "line-of-sight" to achieve the "neutralising" effect proposed by the LUTEC device creator, can such a device be possible. No such material exists to my knowledge as the magnetic field would curl around the "shield" and still slow down the permanent magnets. Some savvy boffin may be able to come up with such a material that could even be made to mechanically rotate into and out of the "line-of-sight" with the permanent magnets... not unlike these film-strip movie projectors synchronises field frames onto the viewing screen. My longwinded two cents worth. Can we now get back to Bio Diesel!?!? Jurie. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: 03 April 2005 03:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device OK Keith, be nice. >I've developed this wonderful technique of producing cold > fusion in a Dr Pepper bottle, just add the secret ingredients and > shake it 3.5 times... Interested? > > Keith --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Better first dates. More second dates. Yahoo! Personals _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/