Dear Rick, In principle you are correct but does anyone really want to occupy an area after dropping nukes on it. Besides it would have spoiled the oil. As for having enough troops, no way I can agree. Why do you think those poor men and women in the "National Guard" are doing service there? I was always under the opinion that those who were in that branch we're there to protect our soil not our national interests.
I agree with analysis of North Korea. Besides that really is more a problem for China and Japan. China's got a madman in their backyard and has to keep him pointed at the U.S. or else he points elsewhere, no? Tom -----Original Message----- From: Rick Littrell To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 4/7/05 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity Dear Tom, These are excellent points. In the case of France though the German army was a bit more of a challenge than the Iraq army, the French actually wanted us there. The response we got from the French is what Bush apparently thought he would get from the Iraqis (sp?). Unfortunately, he had no equivalent to DeGaul. I don't agree about not being able to occupy with fire power. That is no longer true. How many troops were lost invading Japan? He had more than enough troops to occupy Iraq had he treated it as an enemy instead of a victim of a dictatorship although he would have been an even bigger war criminal than he is now. As for North Korea, I think he had sense enough to know ... OK, the people around him had sense enough to know, that the North Korean Army could inflict unacceptable losses on us even if we won and we would risk "complications" with China. He doesn't fight from principle. As many in this group have pointed out, he is basically a bully. Rick Tom Irwin wrote: >Dear Rick, > >What makes you think the U.S. did a good job with the invasion? It was a >major cluster****. Sure we beat up a third world army but failed to send the >forces to close the borders. Iraq is the size of France. We invaded France >in 1944 with about 1 million soldiers, Iraq with 120,000. Infantry is >designed to fight for and hold territory. Our army fought extremely well, >detroyed their army but it simply is too small a force to occupy a country >that size. You can't occupy with firepower, you occupy with manpower. This >is just basic military strategy. Do not think for an instant that I believe >that we invaded to free the Iraqi people. If we really wanted to go after a >really bad dictator where our military is extremely exposed and where there >is a greater national threat, we'ed be in North Korea. Why aren't we there? >There's certainly weapons of mass destruction? WHY? WHY? WHY? There's no oil >there. > >Tom > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Rick Littrell >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: 4/5/05 5:05 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Iraq Invasion - Age of Oil Scarcity > >Dear Scott, > >I think the thesis here is a bit of a reach. At the time of the >invasion the dollar was not in the shape it is now. In fact one reason >for the decline is the cost of the war. I still lean to the theory >that Sadam was seen as a threat to the region and eventually would >threaten US access to cheep oil by occupying his neighbors. The Bush >administration calculated that it would be cheaper to attack him rather >than contain him. It is a sobering thought that one of the geniuses >that believed this is now head of the world bank. As far as the Euro >vs the dollar, The big energy companies don't care what they get paid >in or by who. At one point one of the companies that wants to drill in >the Arctic admitted they'd probably sell the oil to Japan Rather than >try to pipe it to the lower 48. > >Rick > >Scott wrote: > > > >>How many of us had an "AHA moment" when reading this article? >> >>We now see the real reason for this illegal war [or at least one of the >>reasons]. >> >>Saddam Hussein was about to be given a clean bill of health by the UN >>inspection team beacuse he obviously didn't have WMD's. He was then >> >> >going > > >>to open the spigots and start selling oil. Not only was he going to >> >> >sell > > >>oil for Euros exacerbating the decline of the dollar, but that would >> >> >also > > >>have driven the global price of oil down. >> >>Clearly, EXXON/Mobile, Chevron/Texaco, BP/Amoco et. al. did not want >> >> >the > > >>price of oil to go down. >> >>"ExxonMobil Corporation reported the fourth quarter of 2004 as its >> >> >highest > > >>quarter ever..." >>http://www.npnweb.com/uploads/featurearticles/2005/MarketingStrategies / >> >> >0503ms.asp > > >>PEACE >>Scott >>----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >>>Instead of inaugurating a new age of cheap oil, the Iraq war may >>> >>> >become > > >>> >>> >>> >>> >>known as the beginning of an era of scarcity. >> >>_______________________________________________ >>Biofuel mailing list >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel >> >>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >>Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >>http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >> >> >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >[EMAIL PROTECTED] >http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): >http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
