What do you feel is the general direction of the auto fuel/engine situation? I don't mean the ideal direction or worst case direction, just the general direction of the drift at this point. For example, since biodiesel and diesel engines are a perfect match (according to you) and ethanol/"flexible fuel" engines are not, is the general drift to start producing more cars with diesel engines? Or since ethanol has fewer political problems than biodiesel/hemp, is the drift towards creating engines that work better with higher levels of ethanol? If there are different groups drifting in different directions, what are the major groups, and what are the major directions? -----Original Message----- From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 18:18 PM To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Ethanol
E85 is a compromise, as is the engine that burns it. Not great on gasoline, not great on ethanol. Ethanol likes high compression, advanced timing, and high flow rates. flow rates and timing can be adjusted by computer based on fuel source, compression cannot. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nathan Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] Ethanol > What are your thoughts on E85? How about the engines that burn it? > -----Original Message----- > From: steve spence [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 18:04 PM > To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [biofuels-biz] Hemp Industry Wins Stay On Food Ban > > > what is necessary to add to ethanol to make it an ideal fuel? how about an > engine designed to burn it. gas engines are not..... > > diesel engines however are ideal for biodiesel, from whatever source of > oil. > > ethanol is a good additive to gasoline (better than MTBE) and not a bad > additive to happy hour. just don't do both at the same time. > > > Steve Spence > Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: > http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm > > Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ > Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - > http://24.190.106.81:8383/2000/humanpower.htm > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nathan Cheng" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 9:58 PM > Subject: RE: [biofuels-biz] Hemp Industry Wins Stay On Food Ban > > > > If a person is committed to using ethanol for fuel, would he/she add > > anything else for whatever reason? I.e. What things need to be added to > the > > ethanol to produce the ideal gallon of auto fuel? How about some regular > > gasoline to make it poisonous, bad smelling, and bad tasting to underage > > would-be drinkers? Are there other things from renewable sources that > could > > be added instead for the same effect? > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/9bTolB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://www.webconx.com/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
