http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pr020722.html
http://www.ethanolrfa.org/pr020627.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "murdoch" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@yahoogroups.com> Cc: <biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:12 PM Subject: [biofuels-biz] cost of gasoline, ethanol mixture @ 76 stations > 1. The cost of gasoline at some local stations in San Diego seems to be pushing > upward steadily. I'd say in the low $1.80s per gallon around where I live for > 87 octane, and it can get over $2.00 per gallon for 91 octane. > > 2. I've been making a point of buying down the street at the local 76 station. > I believe now that 76 is part of "Conoco-Phillips" or some such. They have been > very clear in their "NO MTBE" signs around here for what seems like about a > year. Their signs on their pumps used a wording that said the gasoline *might* > contain ethanol, but it was never entirely clear. I chose to hope that they > were including ethanol, because I think the other way to get around the > Oxygenate rule (reformulated gas) might not be that common and I don't know if > it's legal. I have written them to attempt to get a confirmation that they > *are* using a 10% or so (or whatever the standard is, to satisfy the oxygenate > requirements) mixture, but have received no response. A late-night worker there > did respond with confidence that they were, but I can't take that as the final > answer. > > Others may say, "Well, so what, we see ethanol elsewhere all the time." I think > it's important. There was a *hellacious* battle to get the oil companies to > switch away from MTBE in California, and to get them to consider using ethanol. > That battle seems to have gone silent for the last year. Many seem to be still > using MTBE, according to some pumps I've seen. > > If 76 is doing something good (by the standards of ethanol proponents) then we > must give them credit and make it clear that we appreciate the lack of runaround > on the issue. Too often we wait for bad news or resistance to bring attention > to a business. > > The station I go to charges always within a penny or two of the Shell Station > nearby. So, if 76 is using ethanol and incurring the doomsday extra costs that > the Refiners claimed would be incurred if they were forced to use ethanol, then > it's not showing at the pump, one bit. I haven't heard a peep of complaint from > 76 about this, and have seen the very large NO MTBE signs at many (all?) of > their stations. Prior to being able to buy this gasoline down the street, which > I am assuming has ethanol in it, I had *never* been able to find a single pump > in my area that had any ethanol mixed in. So, while others may take such > availability for-granted, I think this 76 program is awesome, pending > verification that in fact they're using ethanol. I'm still wary on that point. > > If and when further political decisions and events come to a head, I expect the > Oil companies to drag out further anti-ethanol arguments, and it would be nice, > at that time, to be able to report that at least one of them has not only been > implementing a 10% or so mixture of ethanol in some areas, but is doing so with > no customer dissatisfaction as to quality or price, and is still able to do > excellent profitable gasoline-selling business, so that many of the arguments > are just nonsense. If 76 is really doing this, then I salute them. > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > Biofuel at WebConX > http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm > List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: > http://archive.nnytech.net/ > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > Biofuels at Journey to Forever http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel at WebConX http://webconx.green-trust.org/2000/biofuel/biofuel.htm List messages are archived at the Info-Archive at NNYTech: http://archive.nnytech.net/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/