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Subject: [biofuels-biz] cost of gasoline, ethanol mixture @ 76 stations


> 1.  The cost of gasoline at some local stations in San Diego seems to be
pushing
> upward steadily.  I'd say in the low $1.80s per gallon around where I live
for
> 87 octane, and it can get over $2.00 per gallon for 91 octane.
>
> 2.  I've been making a point of buying down the street at the local 76
station.
> I believe now that 76 is part of "Conoco-Phillips" or some such.  They
have been
> very clear in their "NO MTBE" signs around here for what seems like about
a
> year.  Their signs on their pumps used a wording that said the gasoline
*might*
> contain ethanol, but it was never entirely clear.  I chose to hope that
they
> were including ethanol, because I think the other way to get around the
> Oxygenate rule (reformulated gas) might not be that common and I don't
know if
> it's legal.  I have written them to attempt to get a confirmation that
they
> *are* using a 10% or so (or whatever the standard is, to satisfy the
oxygenate
> requirements) mixture, but have received no response.  A late-night worker
there
> did respond with confidence that they were, but I can't take that as the
final
> answer.
>
> Others may say, "Well, so what, we see ethanol elsewhere all the time."  I
think
> it's important.  There was a *hellacious* battle to get the oil companies
to
> switch away from MTBE in California, and to get them to consider using
ethanol.
> That battle seems to have gone silent for the last year.  Many seem to be
still
> using MTBE, according to some pumps I've seen.
>
> If 76 is doing something good (by the standards of ethanol proponents)
then we
> must give them credit and make it clear that we appreciate the lack of
runaround
> on the issue.  Too often we wait for bad news or resistance to bring
attention
> to a business.
>
> The station I go to charges always within a penny or two of the Shell
Station
> nearby.  So, if 76 is using ethanol and incurring the doomsday extra costs
that
> the Refiners claimed would be incurred if they were forced to use ethanol,
then
> it's not showing at the pump, one bit.  I haven't heard a peep of
complaint from
> 76 about this, and have seen the very large NO MTBE signs at many (all?)
of
> their stations.  Prior to being able to buy this gasoline down the street,
which
> I am assuming has ethanol in it, I had *never* been able to find a single
pump
> in my area that had any ethanol mixed in.  So, while others may take such
> availability for-granted, I think this 76 program is awesome, pending
> verification that in fact they're using ethanol.  I'm still wary on that
point.
>
> If and when further political decisions and events come to a head, I
expect the
> Oil companies to drag out further anti-ethanol arguments, and it would be
nice,
> at that time, to be able to report that at least one of them has not only
been
> implementing a 10% or so mixture of ethanol in some areas, but is doing so
with
> no customer dissatisfaction as to quality or price, and is still able to
do
> excellent profitable gasoline-selling business, so that many of the
arguments
> are just nonsense.  If 76 is really doing this, then I salute them.
>
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