What can I say, John? Both statistics and observations are both too malleable. This could become perceived myth versus perceived myth, judging others by what they drive and where we can't fully know what drove their decision, I really don't want to go there. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts. Doug ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hayes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 1:48 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes
> Doug. > > For the vast majority, SUVs are about status, not capability. Those 3 or > 4 or 5 kids will also fit in a minivan that already gets mileage in the > 20s. How do I know? My wife is one of 5 and she's the runt of the > family; both her sisters are over 5"10 and her two brothers are over 6"3. > > Also, what proportion of American families are actually that large? > According to US census data, in 48 of 50 states, families average less > than two children. > > http://www.census.gov/population/socdemo/hh-fam/tabST-F1-2000.pdf > > You can't tell me with a straight face that large families have driven > the SUV boom in the 90s. > > Finally, don't believe the myth that American consumers were "forced" to > buy SUVs by the disappearance of the station wagon. It's just not true. > > "Midsized SUVs rose from 4% of all light duty vehicle sales in MY1998 to > 12.3% in 2000. Midsized station wagons droped from 1.9 to 1.4 percent in > the same period. Large SUVs rose from 0.5% to 5.5% while large station > wagons dropped from 0.5% to 0. SUVs are far more popular today than > station wagons were before CAFE." > > from pg 19 http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/cafe/docs/162944_web.pdf > > jh > > Doug Younker wrote: > > Well.. I would have to think a 22 MPG SUV is a step above the 13-16 MPG SUV > > of 25 to 30 years ago. As long as families continue to have 3, 4 or more > > kids, with some of them being 6 foot giants the demand, for larger vehicles > > isn't going to subside soon. Shoot it's going to be difficult enough to > > reduce the miles those vehicles are being driven. > > Doug, N0LKK > > > > From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > > Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 3:21 PM > > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Check out Diesel Won't Solve Our Gasoline Woes > > > > > > > >>I read that. Diesel will only help if combined w/ high mileage cars, > >>hybrid and bio. To go to diesel so Americans can get 22 mpg in their > >>SUVs is pretty silly. > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Biofuel mailing list > > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > -- > John E Hayes, M.S. > Instructor, Dietetics Program, DIET 203 / DIET 215 > Doctoral Student, Nutritional Sciences > University of Connecticut - 326 Koons Hall > [EMAIL PROTECTED] / 860.486.0007 > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
