I can't kill anything anymore, except chickens. I hate chickens.  But I 
live live in the 'burbs so there are no chickens anyhow.  My dad tells 
stories of his chilhood in Arkansas and pig killing, which they did from 
November - January.   I'm pretty much a vegetarian anyhow these days.

Tom Irwin wrote:

> Hi Andres,
>  
> Castor beans grow wild here in Uruguay as well. I have some deep 
> seated childhood memories of castor oil as an emetic. Just the smell 
> makes me gag.  I'll use it with a mask if I can find no other source 
> but it is kind of a last resort material for me. The yields are good 
> though and it's essentially free for the taking. I was looking at 
> jojoba as a natural fence material but I think I'm a bit too wet here. 
> I suspect I'd have lots of fungus problems than in drier climates. I 
> may use raspberry or blackberries instead. The weather is is rather 
> mild. We actually had a light frost day this winter. The summer's 
> reach about 38 C. but you can expect rain in a day or so to bring 
> those temps back down to 28. It's mostly flat grassland here with 
> 38-78 cm of rainfall. This year we'll probably exceed the upper end. 
> I'm hoping global warming will keep it there but I'm not sure. Lot's 
> of people think it could shift to the dry end. I just haven't seen 
> much evidence in that direction.
>  
> I keep telling everyone who will listen that oil prices are going to 
> change the nature of agriculture back to small organic farms. Now I'm 
> going to show them. I'm a bit squimish in killing animals, too. I was 
> raised as a city boy. I was giving thought to lethal injection with 
> potassium chloride solution. Pigs and humans have lots of 
> similarities. It's worth a question to the local vet.
>  
> Tom Irwin
>   
>
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>     *From:* Andres Yver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>     *To:* Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>     *Sent:* Tue, 27 Sep 2005 10:17:27 -0300
>     *Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] New question on oil seed crops and ley
>     farming
>
>     Hello Tom,
>
>     >> Hi Keith and all,
>     >>
>     >> You mentioned in a previous thread that you liked castor beans
>     as an
>     >> oil seed crop.
>
>     You're in Uruguay, right? In Chile, castor bean is a serious weed. It
>     grows extremely fast, reaching over two meters height and diameter
>     within 8 months. If you have moisture, as near an irrigation
>     canal, you
>     can collect many hundreds of seeds, even perhaps a thousand or more
>     from each plant. It thrives on no management or additional
>     fertilization. Roadsides are a good place to find them. I considered
>     them, together with jojoba, as an oil seed crop, before selling
>     out and
>     moving to Argentina. I crushed one, yes one, plant's worth in a
>     primitive homemade press and got about a liter of oil. i haven't gone
>     to purdue's newcrop site to see what average yields are. The area
>     i was
>     in was a mediterranean climate, 250mm annual rainfall, min temps down
>     near the canal were around -2 or 3 C in the dead of winter.
>     Summers got
>     up to around 35C max. Bear in mind it was summer dry, winter wet. I
>     think Uruguay, as is Argentina, tends to be more continental, ie
>     summer
>     wet and winter dry.
>
>     I composted the seedcake and found you need to include lots of woody
>     feedstock as well as cow manure (what was at hand) to avoid
>     rancidity.
>     In other words, don't try to compost it as a major component of your
>     compost. If you heat your seeds first by spreading in the sun on
>     top of
>     shade cloth, you get higher yields.
>
>     Sorry about the unscientific comments, your mileage may vary, etc.
>     Weeds are an opportunity waiting to happen, they have lots of
>     unexplored potential, on many levels. Right now, we have an area that
>     is overrun with comfrey, which is here considered a noxious weed.
>     Following Newman Turner's lead (see JTF small farms library for
>     his and
>     other invaluable books on farming the easy way), we have wilted it
>     and
>     are feeding it to rabbits. They LOVE it!!!
>
>     Good luck with your future farm. Working for yourself can't be beat.
>     Especially if what you are doing is not only pleasurable but gets
>     other, local, people interested and heading down the path to
>     sustainability. I've found that, here in South America -and probably
>     everywhere, the best arguments for sustainability in general, and ley
>     farming in particular, are economic ones. It's just way cheaper to
>     farm
>     this way. Farmers of other stripes sit up and notice when you get
>     successfully through a season without having used any inputs labelled
>     Monsanto or Bayer or BASF...
>
>     On a personal note, our winter rye (Korn to you in europe) is just
>     starting to head, is close to 160cm tall, and has NO rust
>     (puccinia) of
>     any kind, nor any insect infestation. We're setting up an electric
>     fence around those fields today, and tomorrow our neighbors horses
>     and
>     mules will be grazing it down prior to discing and seeding a
>     summer ley.
>
>     I can't stress overmuch how easy ley farming really is. Things just
>     fall into place, and everything you do benefits something (or
>     perhaps a
>     few things, if you're paying attention) else, making the next steps
>     even easier...
>
>     What was not easy was killing Dick and George last week. Anybody have
>     any tips for killing your animals in a way that sends them off to
>     better pastures without fear? Dick got a 9mm round behind the ear,
>     George a knife into the heart. Both ways were to me horrible. The uni
>     kids didn't see that as we did it a couple of days before they got
>     here. There has to be a better way. Succinyl choline was mentioned i
>     think on this list? It's way too high tech, though. How about an
>     injection of air into an artery like they do (used to do?) at the
>     mortuary- or is that an urban legend?
>
>     andres
>
>
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