Ok so if we follow this line of thought to it's logical conclusion where do we end up Todd?  Yeah I know, 'The dark side'. Maybe the dark side is where the real Jedi warriors reside and everyone has been brainwashed to believe the opposite. It's the bizzarro world where white is really black and black is really white. Funny thing is this was actually foretold in the Tao Teh Ching  (for whatever that is worth to modern society) There was a great scene in the movie "The Matrix" where the human race is compared to a virus, which espouses ( I assume) the same sentiment as Abbey (which I have not read).  And then there's "If you are not with us you are against us"  It's as scary as if you had swallowed a pill and have to ride out the consequences no matter how terrible the trip.  Even if you discover the train is on a track to disaster there is no getting off this train.  The only hope is to dream up a way to entice enough of the passengers away from the onboard entertainment to perhaps overwhelm the engineer and apply the brakes! What we need, going back to the Matrix analogy is a really good 'red pill'.  Perhaps social and economic collapse is just the ticket.  Throw in a few wars and a few good plagues in the mix and perhaps what comes out the other side will be more sensible. If any of us or our children are left to see it.
Sorry I guess I'm not in the most optimistic mood this morning.  I forgot to take my blue pill.

Joe



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Remember now. All this is predicated on mindless, cancerous, 
all-consuming economic growth in the "traditional" manner.

Me thinks Dick "Numb Nuts" Cheney needs to read a little Edward Abbey, 
who made the casual and rather definitive observation that "Growth for 
growth's sake is the ideology of the cancer cell."

Todd Swearingen

  
Oh yes this is dramatically better. So I wonder if he thought about how 
that energy was generated, and then there is the little issue of just 
what happens to "the peak period" when everyone's car is plugged in the 
grid every night. Sheeesh. I thought rotating blackouts was already a 
problem.

Joe

 

    
But we can do even better – dramatically better – with the plug-in hybrid 
that is just now on the threshold of commercialization. ...Plugging in your 
car during off peak hours –when power is in surplus and cheaper – would 
soon just become part of the modern daily routine, like plugging in your 
cell phone or PDA before you go to bed. And off-peak electricity can be the 
equivalent of 50 cent a gallon gasoline.


   

      
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