>On 11/1/05, alex burton ><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Please contact me off group ><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] as i will have >to switch off the group soon due to the bulk of email that is not >about biodiesel.
... which sails close to a speedy exit via the back door. This is NOT just a "biodiesel list". It also sails close to another restriction on taking useful discussion offlist for no good reason, and hotmail's keyhole view of the Internet is not a good reason. See: http://snipurl.com/gi45 Regarding gmail, yes, it's been discussed before, and we don't want any more promotions for gmail. Other list members have said the same and offered invites, and some of them have said later it's not as good as they thought, very much beta, and I agree with that. There are also some controversial issues with gmail anyway, which have also been discussed. In fact it's an advertising issue, and there's a list policy on that too, very much so. You're a bit naive if you don't realise gmail is operating in an intensely competitive market. "Restricting" it and giving new members 100 invites just turns them into keen volunteer salesmen, works like chain letters, same mode of appeal. No more gmail promotes please. More than that, people who're not using hotmail or yahoo or whatever are now getting the idea that the way to handle a mailing list is with gmail, otherwise you have to throw everything away because it "swamps your mailbox". Your one and only mailbox. It says at the list subscription section: >Please note that the Biofuel list is not a newsletter service and >not a "website", it is an interactive email discussion group posting >from 20 to 50 messages a day. If that will "swamp your mailbox", >please read this message: >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg21651.html In case your hotmail or whatever breaks lines, here's a short link to the same message: http://snipurl.com/h9oy With hotmail or yahoo, and gmail, you're trying to work through a keyhole. To handle not only a mailing list but the Internet itself you require an Internet Service Provider that provides you with an email account so that you can use a proper email program. That means you can make multiple mailboxes and use filters to send incoming messages direct to those mailboxes where you can read them later, or never, at your leisure. Biofuel list messages go to the "Biofuel" mailbox. With real email programs you can list messages in mailboxes by author, by date, or by subject, and they have useful search functions, so you can search your mailboxes for information. You start to build up your own information resource, without even doing anything. Nearly everybody has much more hard-disk space than they can use - don't delete stuff, just leave it there. Computers are fast, it won't even slow down your searches, and you have no way of knowing in advance what may later prove useful information, so there's no need to "delete" anything. NOW you can handle a mailing list. Gmail shmeemail. Best wishes Keith Addison Journey to Forever KYOTO Pref., Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ Biofuel list owner >Alex >Have you considered opening a Gmail account? ><http://www.gmail.com>www.gmail.com >We've discussed it a few times here, but the best features are the >'threading' of messages and the 2660 MB (and growing) space. Better >with individual emails rather than digests, I've found. > >I could not imagine using hotmail to receive discussion emails >anymore...and I'm switching the ones I get at Yahoo to Gmail! > >-- >Thanks, >PC > >He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch > >History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have >exhausted all other alternatives. - Abba Eban _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
