<Large snip by Jeromie Reeves> > >With hotmail or yahoo, and gmail, you're trying to work through a > >keyhole. To handle not only a mailing list but the Internet itself > >you require an Internet Service Provider that provides you with an > >email account so that you can use a proper email program. > > > > >Please dont give out misleading information like this. GMail lets you >send and recive with any >normal email program for free (unlike hotmail/yahoo)
I don't care what gmail does, it's marginal to handling email information effectively. I won't allow any further discussion/promotion of it here, and I'm going to be strict about it. And I don't appreciate your snipping style. > >That means you can make multiple mailboxes and use filters to send > >incoming messages direct to those mailboxes where you can read them > >later, or never, at your leisure. Biofuel list messages go to the > >"Biofuel" mailbox. > > > > >I have over 20 email accounts that I do this with Thunderbird, Very nice >program. 5 of them are >GMail. How nice for you. > >With real email programs you can list messages in mailboxes by > >author, by date, or by subject, and they have useful search > >functions, so you can search your mailboxes for information. You > >start to build up your own information resource, without even doing > >anything. > > > >Nearly everybody has much more hard-disk space than they can use - > >don't delete stuff, just leave it there. Computers are fast, it won't > >even slow down your searches, and you have no way of knowing in > >advance what may later prove useful information, so there's no need > >to "delete" anything. > > > > >Very true. I have 512GB of space, 10gb free, time for some more 250GB drives > > >NOW you can handle a mailing list. > > > > >Its a start. It won't make you an info-pro, but you're not going to get anywhere if you start in the wrong place either. Keith Full, unsnipped message reinserted: >>On 11/1/05, alex burton >><<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>Please contact me off group >><mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED] as i will >>have to switch off the group soon due to the bulk of email that is >>not about biodiesel. > >... which sails close to a speedy exit via the back door. This is >NOT just a "biodiesel list". It also sails close to another >restriction on taking useful discussion offlist for no good reason, >and hotmail's keyhole view of the Internet is not a good reason. See: >http://snipurl.com/gi45 > >Regarding gmail, yes, it's been discussed before, and we don't want >any more promotions for gmail. Other list members have said the same >and offered invites, and some of them have said later it's not as >good as they thought, very much beta, and I agree with that. There >are also some controversial issues with gmail anyway, which have >also been discussed. > >In fact it's an advertising issue, and there's a list policy on that >too, very much so. You're a bit naive if you don't realise gmail is >operating in an intensely competitive market. "Restricting" it and >giving new members 100 invites just turns them into keen volunteer >salesmen, works like chain letters, same mode of appeal. > >No more gmail promotes please. > >More than that, people who're not using hotmail or yahoo or whatever >are now getting the idea that the way to handle a mailing list is >with gmail, otherwise you have to throw everything away because it >"swamps your mailbox". Your one and only mailbox. > >It says at the list subscription section: > >>Please note that the Biofuel list is not a newsletter service and >>not a "website", it is an interactive email discussion group >>posting from 20 to 50 messages a day. If that will "swamp your >>mailbox", please read this message: >>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg21651.html > >In case your hotmail or whatever breaks lines, here's a short link >to the same message: >http://snipurl.com/h9oy > >With hotmail or yahoo, and gmail, you're trying to work through a >keyhole. To handle not only a mailing list but the Internet itself >you require an Internet Service Provider that provides you with an >email account so that you can use a proper email program. > >That means you can make multiple mailboxes and use filters to send >incoming messages direct to those mailboxes where you can read them >later, or never, at your leisure. Biofuel list messages go to the >"Biofuel" mailbox. > >With real email programs you can list messages in mailboxes by >author, by date, or by subject, and they have useful search >functions, so you can search your mailboxes for information. You >start to build up your own information resource, without even doing >anything. > >Nearly everybody has much more hard-disk space than they can use - >don't delete stuff, just leave it there. Computers are fast, it >won't even slow down your searches, and you have no way of knowing >in advance what may later prove useful information, so there's no >need to "delete" anything. > >NOW you can handle a mailing list. > >Gmail shmeemail. > >Best wishes > >Keith Addison >Journey to Forever >KYOTO Pref., Japan >http://journeytoforever.org/ >Biofuel list owner > > > >>Alex >>Have you considered opening a Gmail account? >><http://www.gmail.com>www.gmail.com >>We've discussed it a few times here, but the best features are the >>'threading' of messages and the 2660 MB (and growing) space. >>Better with individual emails rather than digests, I've found. >> >>I could not imagine using hotmail to receive discussion emails >>anymore...and I'm switching the ones I get at Yahoo to Gmail! >> >>-- >>Thanks, >>PC >> >>He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch >> >>History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they >>have exhausted all other alternatives. - Abba Eban > >Gmail shmeemail. > > > > > >Jeromie > > >Best wishes > > > >Keith Addison > >Journey to Forever > >KYOTO Pref., Japan > >http://journeytoforever.org/ > >Biofuel list owner > > > > > > > > > > > >>Alex > >>Have you considered opening a Gmail account? > >><http://www.gmail.com>www.gmail.com > >>We've discussed it a few times here, but the best features are the > >>'threading' of messages and the 2660 MB (and growing) space. Better > >>with individual emails rather than digests, I've found. > >> > >>I could not imagine using hotmail to receive discussion emails > >>anymore...and I'm switching the ones I get at Yahoo to Gmail! > >> > >>-- > >>Thanks, > >>PC > >> > >>He's the kind of a guy who lights up a room just by flicking a switch > >> > >>History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have > >>exhausted all other alternatives. - Abba Eban _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
