Bobby,

> But if you are upset about illegal immigration or the lack of a 
> future for social security, you can't rightfully blame Bush.

You don't have a problem with taking a growing surplus (pre-Bush) and turning 
it into a deficit that will take 30 years to recover from (present Bush) and 
viewing it as an issue that grew out of but one administration?

>but sometimes indecision and inaction is very dangerous.

And you think that anyone but Bush would have just thrown up their hands and 
whimpered? What about the possibility that they would have analyzed the facts 
and come up with a completely different conclusion, therefore a completely 
different and probably a less destructive response? Better than 75% of the 
world's population did, the majority of which weren't even Ivy League graduates.

Serious reservations -to the point of nearly 100% - exist whether anyone other 
than Bush would have manipulated non-existant, doubtful and forged "data" into 
dire threats of the next time being in the form of a mushroom cloud.

> Fundamentalist Islam hates America, period.

That's a little twisted. More like some fundamentalists hate America. Even then 
it's not necessarily America or Americans, rather the brain-dead and 
self-serving tactics used by a nation to subvert anything not to their liking, 
among which you can include military presence on their soils to preserve 
self-interests. Uhhhhh...., such as stability of oil flow under the veil of 
national security?

All inclusive statements that encompass an entire segment of people are usually 
enormously flawed.

Todd Swearingen



Bobby Clark wrote:

>The Bush Administration is not trying to kill you. Sounds like a little 
>paranoia.
>
>First of all, I don't think all of the decisions coming out of this 
>administration are wrong; although the media would certainly have you 
>believe so. They really have it out for this president; even to the point of 
>bending the truth and hiding other elements of it. Not to say that this 
>administration has not done the same thing at times, but we've come to 
>expect this in politics, unfortunately.
>
>The thing I like about Bush is that he is not afraid to say how he feels and 
>believes. He is not afraid to make a decision. Sometimes indecision is 
>better than making a wrong decision in the eyes of many, but sometimes 
>indecision and inaction is very dangerous.
>
>The gripes that you hear coming out of those who are against Bush and this 
>government aren't all problems that this administration created. You can't 
>blame Bush for everything; well, I guess you can but you'd be wrong. Many of 
>the problems the nation faces today have been lingering for 15-20 years or 
>longer. I didn't hear anyone griping about them when Clinton was in office 
>beacuse most people liked Clinton. You see, for a lot of people it is 
>personal.
>
>Now if you are against the war in Iraq; then you can blame Bush. If you are 
>upset about rising fuel costs, you can partially blame Bush (which I do, by 
>the way). But if you are upset about illegal immigration or the lack of a 
>future for social security, you can't rightfully blame Bush. These were 
>problems that were there before he ever took office, but I often still hear 
>people blaming him for them.
>
>As far as terrorism goes; Bush usn't inciting people anymore than they were 
>already. Fundamentalist Islam hates America, period. Our way of life is 
>against what their religion teaches and it (our way of life) continues to 
>entice many young people out of Islam. 9/11 happened before the "war on 
>terror" or the war in Iraq (although it seems many forget this fact). They 
>came on our soil and blew up our buidlings. Swift action had to be taken to 
>send a message to terrorists who wold hate America even if Mickey Mouse was 
>president.
>
>I don't agree with this administration on everything; in fact, I disagree 
>with it a lot. However, I don't let my personal feelings take me on wild 
>flights of fancy like "the governement is completely evil" or "the 
>government is trying to kill me". It is in those statements that logic is 
>absent.
>
>Bobby Clark
>
>
>
>  
>
>>From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?
>>Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 08:18:11 -0600
>>
>>On 4/19/06, Bobby Clark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>    
>>
>>>Yeah, the US missed the opportunity to have someone in office that 
>>>      
>>>
>>couldn't
>>    
>>
>>>make a decision if the life and health of the nation depended on it. I 
>>>      
>>>
>>would
>>    
>>
>>>feel really safe if the democrats had control of the White House...
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>Well, maybe the democrats couldn't make a decision to save their
>>lives, but that's slightly better than making the wrong decision,
>>which is what the current administration seems to be doing all of the
>>time.  I for one would prefer an ineffectual government to a downright
>>evil government that's trying to kill me and the rest of the world.
>>Even forgetting all of the domestic attacks on our environment,
>>climate, health care, etc..., the "war on terror" is doing a better
>>job of creating more terrorists who hate us than ridding the world of
>>terror (admittedly sort of a hard thing for the US to do in earnest,
>>since we've sponsored so much of it through the years...)
>>
>>On the other hand, there is something to be said for the Bush
>>administration's effect on organizing everyone.  If Gore or Kerry had
>>won, would we have the massive outrage against the US government that
>>we have now?  Probably not.  It would have been "not that bad", but
>>"not that bad" is not a goal to strive for.  I've heard this argument
>>here a few times, and although I don't entirely agree (it seems a
>>little like saying Hurricaine Katrina and all the deaths it caused was
>>a good thing because it will raise awareness of global warming), there
>>is a point there.
>>
>>
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>>
>>>>From: robert luis rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>Reply-To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>>>To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] You were saying?
>>>>Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2006 13:47:29 -0700
>>>>
>>>>Hakan Falk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>US missed an opportunity in the last election, but Bush cannot stay
>>>>>after his period, if he does not also try to pull AH's last trick. I
>>>>>doubt that this can be done in US, nothing is really left other than
>>>>>the hope that next election will be more kind to the world.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>      Are you kidding?  We could have Jeb, then Neil, then Marvin, and
>>>>after them, Jenna and Barbara.  We could have a Bush family dynasty
>>>>for better than 50 years over here!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>robert luis rabello
>>>>"The Edge of Justice"
>>>>Adventure for Your Mind
>>>>http://www.newadventure.ca
>>>>
>>>>Ranger Supercharger Project Page
>>>>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
>>>>
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