Mike, Many of the high voltage transformers in electricity distribution are filled with oil for insulation and cooling purposes. In this case I belive it is mineral oils, but it is many years (40) since I worked with this and do not completely trust my memory.
Hakan At 14:54 16/05/2006, you wrote: >Ah, the computer. Understood. > >How about food grade, Citation and Avatech White Mineral Oil (for example)? > ><http://www.avatarcorp.com/products_list.php/inid/3/catid/89/org/indus/catn/White%20Mineral%20Oil/?source=google>http://www.avatarcorp.com/products_list.php/inid/3/catid/89/org/indus/catn/White%20Mineral%20Oil/?source=google > >...although mineral oils might actually conduct >electricity. I haven't done enough research yet. >In any event, I think it's quite possible to >have a clear, non-conductive oil with relatively good heat transfer qualities. > >There are optical fluids (oils) used in the >manufacture of some high power microscopes (for example). > >I snipped a portion from a site about oil cooled >computers. I think it's applicable here. > >"The gunk factor and the place smelling like >vegetable oil makes me think that a >petrochemical or mineral oil would be the best >bet.. I suppose any reasonably non-conductive >fluid medium would work. Heh.. Thinned-down >petroleum jelly for a porn server? I wonder how conductive gasoline is.." > ><http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3153/>http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoax/weblog/comments/3153/ > > > >I like their spunk! > > >Mike > >Jason & Katie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >i wasnt talking about your idea, i was speaking of the computer. > >anyway if you were to go about it this way, you would need a "white oil" >which is totally clear, and colorless because any color or particulates >would lower the applied sunlight. this would produce more heat, yes, but the >electrical power would be reduced. from an application standpoint the >question is "is the tradeoff worth it?" it all depends on what results you >are after. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Redler >To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 8:17 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Solar Concentrator & PV Modules > > >What does extreme mean? > >The way I see it, there is probably less materials (no special methods for >interfacing PV panel and cooling). I visualize the PV panels in a clear, oil >tight enclosure with an inlet, outlet, a length of tubing, heat exchanger >(radiator) and circulating pump. As far as hardware is concerned, I don't >see this as a huge departure from what we've already been talking about. > >Now, this thread contains lot of "it won't work" type statements which are >not supported with a hell of a lot of information. Simply put, it's a bit of >a turn-off. > >So, if you have a position that questions the validity of an idea, please >back it up with something more than "that's just a touchbit extreme...". > >Thank you in advance. > >Mike > > >Jason & Katie wrote: >that's just a touchbit extreme... > >----- Original Message ----- >From: Michael Redler >To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Sent: Monday, May 15, 2006 7:25 PM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Solar Concentrator & PV Modules > > > >As we all know, there are a lot of ways to harvest waste heat but the one >that stands out in my mind is from a message posted about six months ago. I >don't know if this is a solution, but I'm definitely curious to know one way >or the other. > >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg59540.html > >1) Oils are generally non-conductive so, the PV cells can be immersed in it >without shorting. > >2.) Some oils can come with fairly good optical qualities - important for >passing light to PV and transforming light to electricity. > >Joe: I remember reading your post about experimenting with black bodies and >it looks like you have a background that may be useful here. Maybe you can >chime in (if your reading this thread)? > > >Mike > >[snip] > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
