1. Emotions are part of being human. Life without them would be boring.
2. The only, the only source that reported the story originally was the 
"emotional"
one. The facts about what happened are embedded in it.
3. The difference between the two stories, as I recall, is that time had 
passed
and emotions had cooled. But that doesn't mean that the original rendition's
bits about the actions of the police were any less reprehensible.
Peace, D. Mindock

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 21, 2006 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio


> Not shooting a messenger and it doesn't really matter if the both
> articles were from the same source or one was from Pluto and the other
> from Venus.
>
> One was poorly written, with no facts, only telling a reader what they
> should think or feel. It wasn't an "article," it was an incitement.
>
> The other was only half as bad, although still poorly written.
>
> Personally? I'd like the facts first and I'd prefer to formulate my own
> judgements and orchestrate my own emotions, not have them played like a
> harp by anyone with a purpose.
>
> There's an enormous difference in purpose between the two pieces. That
> was what was pointed out and what you don't seem to want to address.
>
> Todd Swearingen
>
>
>
> D. Mindock wrote:
>
>>Todd,
>>   The link I provided was the original and only link that covered the
>>story. The additional link was to the same site and probably written
>>by the same person. If the original link was too
>>emotional then you should write the author of the article. Don't shoot
>>the messenger.
>>Peace, D. Mindock
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>>Sent: Saturday, May 20, 2006 7:38 PM
>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>Your link, to the same site, is not in disagreement with
>>>>the link I gave.
>>>>It's just an update. Same story, same site. I don't know
>>>>how you can say my link was lopsided.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>The link you provided was all emotion and no detail. The one offered in
>>>response included a bit more meat and considerably less emotion.
>>>
>>>The "point" is to let the facts speak for themselves. They don't lie or
>>>mislead. Emotions often lead readers astray, which is precisely what is
>>>intended far too much of the time.
>>>
>>>Todd Swearingen
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>D. Mindock wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Todd,
>>>>
>>>>  The conversion of our country into a police state is not
>>>>something I can take lightly. I am POed at what's
>>>>happening. I hate seeing the promise of America being trashed by
>>>>a couple of oil barons and their henchmen, oh, and Ms. Rice.
>>>>   The facts were there in the link I gave. If you wish to dig deeper, 
>>>> be
>>>>my
>>>>guest. In this day and age of disinformation originating from
>>>>propaganda disseminated by the US gov, paid for by our tax dollars, who
>>>>are you going to trust?
>>>>  Have you seen the reportage from the Miami FTAA convention
>>>>where people, some elderly, who were peacefully protesting were brutally
>>>>assaulted?
>>>>The USA is becoming a huge gulag, one day at a time, imo. The incident
>>>>in Ohio with Carol Fisher was not an isolated incident.
>>>>   Your link, to the same site, is not in disagreement with the link I
>>>>gave.
>>>>It's just an update. Same story, same site. I don't know how you can say
>>>>my link was lopsided.
>>>>
>>>>   Peace, D. Mindock  PS Another update below:
>>>>
>>>>May 11, 10pm: Carol Fisher has been released!  We'll send out more info
>>>>when
>>>>we have it.  In the meantime, this is an excellent development. But it's
>>>>also NOT over.
>>>>
>>>>We don't know what the judge and other authorities will do next. 
>>>>Carol's
>>>>sentencing date is June 2. She still faces 3 years in jail and thousands
>>>>of
>>>>dollars in fines.  We plan to appeal the verdict and challenge all the
>>>>gross
>>>>violations of her rights.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Click here to find out what you can do to help.
>>>>
>>>>======================================================
>>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>>From: "Appal Energy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2006 6:51 AM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Police Brutality in Ohio
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>How about a little less emotionally charged, speech and a little more 
>>>>>of
>>>>>the facts? Nothing personal. Just that the link you offered was 1,000%
>>>>>lopsided.
>>>>>
>>>>>Here's a slightly more factual bit, almost devoid of facts in 
>>>>>comparison.
>>>>>
>>>>>http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1482&Itemid=184
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm sure that if one were to dig a little deeper there could be found a
>>>>>more thorough description of the events.
>>>>>
>>>>>While it sounds like a legit beef, it would be great to be afforded
>>>>>details, not whitewash on one side or hype on the other.
>>>>>
>>>>>If you do this stuff long enough, you soon realize that facts are your
>>>>>best friend and uber emotions all too frequently alienate potential
>>>>>advocates.
>>>>>
>>>>>Todd Swearingen
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>D. Mindock wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>This is happening in America, land of the free & home of the brave.
>>>>>>America
>>>>>>is becoming a land of no compassion for
>>>>>>common folk who protest against the crimes of BushCo. Even peace 
>>>>>>loving
>>>>>>pacifists are
>>>>>>being put into FBI databases. Anyone who loves peace and hates war is
>>>>>>seen
>>>>>>as a
>>>>>>terrorist to the Oval Office where our Great Decider presides.
>>>>>>Peace, D. Mindock
>>>>>>http://worldcantwait.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1029&Itemi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

>>>>>>
>>>
>>

>>
>>
>>
>>
>>

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