This may work for grapes but keep it the hell away from tomato plants or 
you'll find out what the tobaco mosaic virus is!

Joe

JJJN wrote:

> I was going to mix some of this up about 7 years ago, It so happened 
> that I asked a farmer about it and he told me that it would really work 
> good but he also said in a joking way don't let the Government catch 
> you.  I took the bait and said why its all natural?  He laughed and said 
> that nicotine was the first commercial pesticide and it was also the 
> first one ever banned in the US.  I don't have any proof if what he said 
> was true but the point is natural / organic stuff can be as bad as 
> anything else if it is not used responsibly.
> 
> Jim
> 
> Keith Addison wrote:
> 
> 
>>>Will this kill the bugs busy eating away my precious grape vines and 
>>>shade area without harming the vine. That is used tobacco and some 
>>>soap liquid mixed with water and pump it from a hand sprayer? Got 
>>>sunlight soap here for the dishes, lemon scent even.
>>>
>>>Summary.
>>>1/  1 gallon of water/juice extracted from cigarette butts.
>>>2/  1 cup of liquid soap normally used for dishes.
>>>3/  Mix, strain and spray on my grape vine.
>>>4/  Do not do this in the kitchen with other cooks present.
>>>
>>>Doug
>>>   
>>>
>>
>>Nicotine will kill everything else too, including the bugs that eat 
>>the bugs eating your grapevines. It won't kill the vines though.
>>
>>Best
>>
>>Keith
>>
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Fred Finch
>>>To: <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>biofuel@sustainablelists.org
>>>Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 7:47 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Lawn question off topic
>>>
>>>Jim,
>>>
>>>Instead of ammonia, get a pack of chewing tobacco.  Soak it in a 
>>>gallon of water for a day in the sun.  Strain the tobacco out and 
>>>then add the dish soap.  Spray it on the buggies.  The nicotine is 
>>>absorbed into the little critters and they die.  The plants don't 
>>>care either way about the stuff.  I do this on the roses that I 
>>>have.  Works great.
>>>
>>>Another thing that I have done is grabbed the coffee can of butts 
>>>that my nieghbor had.  He thinks I am nutz anyway but the look on 
>>>his face when I asked him for them was priceless.  I soaked that for 
>>>a day then strained that.  Worked as well as the chewing tobacco and 
>>>was free.  Smelled nasty but did the trick just the same.
>>>
>>>fred
>>>
>>>On 6/18/06, JJJN <<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
>>>Robert,
>>>I was told that if you take one cup Lemon dish soap and mix with one cup
>>>lemon ammonia and spray like you would with a pesticide bottle that you
>>>hook on the end of a garden hose.  At first I thought the idea sounded
>>>good but then what is in all that stuff? and if it kills the bad guys
>>>whats it doing to the good ones. Have you heard of this? What do you
>>>think?  I tested a tiny bit on some catipillers and it sure killed them
>>>and quick, but again that would not be the entire goal if the product
>>>screws up 10 other cycles to do so. I wish I knew more about bugs.  I
>>>suppose you may have some luck if you can apply it in a way that was to
>>>the single point missing everything else.
>>>Jim
>>>
>>>robert and benita rabello wrote:
>>>
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>Chris Lloyd wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Some compost has virtually no ability to fertilise anything, I got caught
>>>>>out this year with the half ton I got for growing tomatoes in. It was
>>>>>supposed to be composted household waste and tree leaves, looked 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>
>>>good, smelt
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>good and will probably make a good soil improver but I had to start adding
>>>>>chicken poo to save the tomatoes. Perhaps the nutrients got 
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>
>>>washed out of it
>>>   
>>>
>>>
>>>>>but I'm going back to rotted horse manure next year.   Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>       
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  I've found that the commercial composts are sterilized with heat to
>>>>kill weed seeds.  This also kills all of the soil fauna, which is
>>>>responsible for fertility.  I made that mistake once, and since then
>>>>I've relied on my own compost.  My trees are happier (though I'm STILL
>>>>have insect and fruit problems) and look far more lush than they have in
>>>>the past.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>robert luis rabello
>>>>"The Edge of Justice"
>>>>Adventure for Your Mind
>>>><http://www.newadventure.ca> http://www.newadventure.ca
>>>>
>>>>Ranger Supercharger Project Page
>>>><http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/>http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/
>>>>     
>>>>
>>
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