I don't know Wu Qing-Yuan or Yanson Corp in China, but he sent me 
this message below without comment, I guess he wants some publicity. 
I don't know if he checked it with Rudi first, but it says all over 
our website that we're journalists after all.

I couldn't get much sense out of Yanson's website, no pics that I 
could find, but maybe someone else will do better.

It sure does sound like a big improvement on the Appleseed, with all 
its problems. Let alone the FuelMeister:
http://snipurl.com/h9ou
Re: [biofuel] Best Processer

However, there's this, about the Appleseed, in a previous message:

>Uh, it's not the same as Dale's touchless processor. It's a cheapo 
>rip-off of Dale's processor, which is not acknowledged by the people 
>who promote it.
-- See: "Re: [Biofuel] appleseed drainage"
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg57690.html

That's Biofuel list member Dale Scroggins, who designed the original 
"Touchless processor":
http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_processor.html#touchfree

That was in Jan 2001, and Dale announced it here:
http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg02074.html
[biofuel] Re: Biodiesel - no catalyst
"Aw, shucks, it's really nothing special.  Just a 100-liter processor
made from mostly salvaged materials that almost fills itself, mixes
everything, recovers the unused methanol, washes and dries the ester
pretty much by flipping a few switches. ;o)" -- Dale Scroggins, Thu, 
11 Jan 2001

It's still an advanced design, five years later.

Maria "Girl Mark" Alovert produced her dumbed-down version of it late 
in 2003. Six months later she wrote to me in connection with her 
"Appleseed" reactor, as she now called it: "I want to write to dale 
scroggins and point him to the things his touchless has spawned." I 
don't know if she ever did write to Dale, but I've never heard of her 
acknowledging that in public, maybe she has, but she sure doesn't 
push it.

Now the unacknowledged rip-off that doesn't work properly has been 
fixed (probably) and is being mass-produced, "China patent pending". 
But I'm sure Dale's part in it will remain unacknowledged.

That's one reason I'm posting this message here.

Another reason is that we established at the list that the 
FuelMeister can be assembled from parts costing a few hundred 
dollars, though Rudi sells it for $3,000 - er, sorry, that's only 
$2,995 - plus all the add-ons that should be part of the package in 
the first place. I wonder what he'll be charging for OEM Appleseeds 
he pays $220 for? Girl Mark also sells her Appleseeds for about 
$3,000. Rudi needs a new trick anyway, I see quite a few other people 
flogging FuelMeister lookalikes in the US now, even if Josh doesn't 
endorse them.

Anyway, IMNSHO it's the people who get it right that will make the 
difference and all this other stuff just doesn't matter in the long 
run. I really don't care about some guy who's agonising over whether 
to buy a FuelMeister or an Appleseed or just use DSE or Acusorb 
beads, but on the other hand I suppose it's no bad thing if Rudi 
junks the odious FuelMeister in favour of these neo-Appleseeds from 
China.

Best

Keith


>Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:14:52 -0700 (PDT)
>From: yanson corp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: OEM-outsourcing (biodiesel)
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Hello Mr. Wu Qing-Yuan:
>
>I am the president of Biodiesel Solutions of Reno, NV, the home of 
>the FuelMeister processor. We are the world¡¯s leading supplier of 
>personal-scale biodiesel production equipment.
>
>We are VERY interested in importing and marketing your machines in 
>the USA. While we currently manufacture these machines ourselves, we 
>are primarily a ¡°system integrator¡±, ¡°marketer¡± and 
>¡°value-added service provider¡± for biodiesel equipment. We have a 
>trained and active network of over 53 dealers in the USA alone, plus 
>many more overseas.
>
>If you are interested in rapidly opening up the US market for 
>biodiesel equipment, please send me details about your product 
>offerings.
>
>Best regards,
>
>Rudi Wiedemann
>President / CEO
>Biodiesel Solutions, Inc.
>1395 Greg Street, #102
>Sparks, NV 89431
>877-358-6400 (toll free)
>775-358-6400x101 (direct)
>775-358-6499 (fax)
><http://www.biodieselsolutions.com/>www.biodieselsolutions.com
>
>--------------------------------------------------------------------- 
>-----------------
>
>We are the low-cost OEM (original equipment manufacturer) of a 
>house-designed 50-gallon all-metal personal homebrew processor 
>(reaction chamber) destined for a biodiesel supply business in the 
>US.   (First shipment arriving L.A. port early July.)
>
>This reaction chamber (RC) tank features a conical bottom for easy 
>drainage, a substantial improvement over flat-bottomed water heater 
>conversion.  The inner vessel is stainless steel and removable outer 
>casing and cap are regular steel, with 1" Styrofoam insulation 
>all-around in-between.  It is a welded structure reinforced with 
>heavy gauge brackets/spacers for integrity, unlike the fragile poly 
>or plastic barrels available on the market.  There are three 1" 
>openings on top and one 1" drain at the conical bottom, all being 
>3.5 cm extrusions of threaded pipe for ready plumbing connection.
>
>Each RC tank comes with pre-wired three-pronged power cord and 
>provision for snap-on or screw-on thermostat and heating element of 
>your own voltage/wattage choice.  They can be delivered CIF to US 
>West Coast for per unit price of approximately US$220.00 (4 steel 
>support legs included for free-standing or bolt-downs), or US$380.00 
>for an all stainless steel version.
>
>Yanson Corp would like to be the OEM/supplier of these RCs , China 
>patent pending, to your biodiesel equipment lineup as well.  Yanson 
>can also custom manufacture any similar RCs to your specifications 
>or of your own design.  Please visit our websites: 
><http://www.yansoncorp.com%20(or/>(<http://www.yansoncorp.com/>www.yan 
>soncorp.com and <http://www.yitaisoft.com/ys/hb100>http://www.yitaisof 
>t.com/ys/hb100<http://www.yansoncorp.com/hb100 %20»ò%20www.yitaisoft.c 
>om/ys/hb100 hb100%20ÖеÄ%20[ÉúÎï"ñÓÍ]  »ò%20 www.yitaisoft.com/ys/hb10 
>0)> )  or request for our photo gallery and technical specifications.
>
>Yanson Corp
>WU Qing-Yuan, Marketing Manager
>
>P.S.  Yanson also offers a patent pending house-designed all-metal 
>one-size-fits-all skid on casters (a move-around platform work 
>station with maximum work space) that can accommodate the 
>whole homebrew apparatus of 50 gallon capacity, including 
>RC/Appleseed, wash tank (55-gallon steel drum) and plumbing.


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