Derick, Are you using 1" or 3/4" fittings/lines? Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derick Giorchino" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice
> No problem I have been making 120 liter batches for 2 years with not one > leek or problem. Note I drain the pump after use. > Good luck. > Derick > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Street > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2006 11:28 AM > To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Pump choice > > Hi Mike; > > I can only speak from my own experience and I haven't used that > combination but I have read a fer anecdotes. Sorry but I think you > should not get too excited about 40 gallons. You may find that you can > only fill that tank to the 25 gallon point with that size plumbing and > pump. You would not be the first one to discover this! There is no > fine print telling you this by the people selling kits with a 40 gallon > tank and clear pump. But then again if you don't do quality tests you > would never know..... > > Joe > > Mike Weaver wrote: > >> Any advice on 40 gallon batches and a clearwater pump? We haven't used >> this latest reactor yet - will it have enought power to >> mix 40 gallons? >> >> -Mike >> >> Joe Street wrote: >> >> >>>Hey Tom; >>> >>>My guess on this is it is not so much the pump but the size of the >>>plumbing. I noticed that one particular pump with the same size motor >>>and impeller was offered with 1" or 3/4" inlet and the throughput was >>>almost the same as a smaller pump with standard 3/4" inlet unless you >>>ordered it with the 1" >>>I then took a look at a whoile bunch of pump curves and what you find is >>>that you won't get beyond about 10-15 GPM with any size motor or pump >>>unless you go larger than 3/4" on the pump inlet. The 90 litre wall I >>>think is related to the 3/4" tank connections on the hot water tanks we >>>all like using not the pump per se but it amounts to the same difference >>>in the end. >>> >>>I believe it is a waste of time and money buying a larger tank than >>>about 100 litres since as most people find out you can't get a good >>>reaction on about more than 90 litres of oil anyways. >>> >>>Joe >>> >>> >>> >>>Thomas Kelly wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>Charles, >>>> The impeller in the clearwater pump is metal. Plastic impellers > will >>>>eventually fail in pumps used to agitate the reaction. >>>> My experience w. the clearwater pump is that it will handle up to >>>> 90L > >>>>(~ 24 gal) batches. Above that, even after three hours reaction time, I > have >>>>gotten incomplete reactions. >>>> Congratulations on your success scaling up. >>>> >>>> Tom >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "Charles List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>>>To: <Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >>>>Sent: Wednesday, July 19, 2006 7:43 PM >>>>Subject: [Biofuel] Pump choice >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Hi All >>>>> >>>>>Thanks to all who have advised me this last few months, I am now a >>>>>biofueller! 105l batches, good product. Unfortunately, after 10 good >>>>>batches, my pump has started spraying out of the back of the impeller >>>>>housing. So I took it apart and the impeller has broken up and the >>>>>housing has been eaten through at the back, around the mechanical >>>>>seal. It was 30 years old or so, free and a plastic spa pump, so I'm >>>>>not too distressed, but I obviously don't want it happening again. >>>>> >>>>>I notice that the clearwater pump used by JtF is made of cast iron, >>>>>so should my next pump be made of metal? Also, is the impeller in the >>>>>clearwater pump plastic? As I know you can get some with stainless >>>>>steel blades, I wonder my impeller break-up was due to age or >>>>>chemicals. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks >>>>> >>>>>Charles List >>>>>-- >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> This email was sent using Telecom SchoolZone. >>>>> www.schoolzone.net.nz >>>>> >>>>>This email has been scanned for viruses by Telecom SchoolZone, >>>>>but is not guaranteed to be virus-free. >>>>>-------------------------------------------------------------- >>>>> >>>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.or > g >>>>> >>>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>>> >>>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >>>>>messages): >>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________ >>>>Biofuel mailing list >>>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>>> >>>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>>> >>>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): >>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>>_______________________________________________ >>>Biofuel mailing list >>>Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >>>http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >>> >>>Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >>>http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >>> >>>Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): >>>http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Biofuel mailing list >> Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org >> >> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >> http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html >> >> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): >> http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ >> >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 > messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/