>Crrraaazy!? What's that? > >Remember the movie One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? It was actually >dangerous to have your emotions (relatively) in balance. > >- Redler
Emotional imbalance is not at all the same as being a psycho/sociopath. Psychopaths can't be described as emotionally imbalanced. Anyway, 4% of the population is way too high an estimate, IMHO. This is one distortion: > > learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit > > psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. I've asked this question before: Is Warren Anderson a psychopathic killer? See: http://snipurl.com/oxks [Biofuel] More about Bhopal In effect yes, but in fact he's just a corporate slave. If you allow corporations to behave as theyd like (?), they'll be sociopathic. Their nature (?) is to subordinate everything to the bottom line, which is inevitably sociopathic. See eg.: http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg62040.html Re: [Biofuel] I always new they were worthless Think I'll post this again: >>That said, part of my point is that corporations are a reflection >>of those humans >>making the big decisions at the top of the corporation. > >Not so. That's where we diverge. It's the other way round, but it's >worse than a reflection. This isn't just my opinion or conjecture, >it's solidly grounded and well established. It's an important >subject here, often discussed, there are very good resources in the >list archives on corporate nature and behaviour. > >Did you read the post about Leopold Kohr etc? If not have a read, if you will: >http://snipurl.com/ox8m >[Biofuel] the end of big biodiesel? > >Anyway, here's some info on a, um, retired CEO named Warren Anderson >and a CEO named Michael Parker: >http://snipurl.com/oxks >[Biofuel] More about Bhopal > >Please give it a read, it's important to get the background >straight. The bit about Anderson is towards the end. > >Do you think Bhopal was (is) an exception? There are those who >present a substantial case for the Bhopal disaster being >business-as-usual, it's a symbol of our times, not an exception. >There's more in the archives about that too. Union Carbide knowingly >and deliberately put the lives of an entire Indian city at risk in >order to save $37.68 per day. The Ford Pinto was $10 each, wasn't >it? That's all history now? Dream on! > >This is what it says about UC CEO Warren Anderson, after describing >his role in it: > >>#1 corporate criminal, ex-UC CEO Warren Anderson, an international >>fugitive from charges of culpable homicide and an extradition order >>from the government of India for the past 12 years after jumping >>bail there, was unearthed in 2002 by a UK newspaper and Greenpeace >>living a life of luxury in New York State. American authorities had >>always insisted they did not know his whereabouts. "If a team of >>journalists and Greenpeace managed to track down India's most >>wanted man in a matter of days, how seriously have the U.S. >>authorities tried to find him all these years?" asked Greenpeace >>campaigner Casey Harrell in the U.S. Greenpeace videotaped Anderson >>and handed him a warrant for his arrest. He denied who he was and >>then ran inside the house. The journalists discovered that >>Anderson's local golf club subscription costs $2700 a year, more >>than five times what Union Carbide's victims in Bhopal got for a >>lifetime of illness and suffering. > >Do you think his pals at the golf club think he's a brutal and >remorseless mass-killer? Or that his wife and kids think that? I'm >sure they all think he was just doing his job and got a raw deal, >and so does he. > >So who's true nature is he reflecting, Mike? Human nature? His own >nature? I'm sure he wouldn't poison his own kids. But check out the >resources at the end of the message above to see what he did to >other people's kids. Thousands of them, and it's still happening >right now. Did he do it, or did Union Carbide do it? Is it Dow CEO >Michael Parker who's continuing the atrocity, or is it Dow - who >brought us Agent Orange, after all, among other things? > >http://www.safe2use.com/ca-ipm/01-05-05.htm >Dow Chemical's Nasty Little Secret - Agent Orange Dump found under >New Zealand Town > >Having read the whole Bhopal post, would you class this particular >ongoing corporate behaviour as in any way sane by any human >standards? It's totally psychopathic, right? > >But I very much doubt that Warren Anderson is a psychopath. And he >didn't poison his own children. How about these CEOs though? > >http://snipurl.com/oxkx >Re: [Biofuel] Cross Posted: Mercury Levels Rising: Report Release > >"... across the US, industrial wastes laden with heavy metals and >other dangerous materials are being used in fertilizers and spread >over farmland. The process, which is legal, saves dirty industries >the high costs of disposing of hazardous wastes. Between 1990 and >1995, 600 companies from 44 different states sent 270 million pounds >of toxic waste to farms and fertilizer companies across the country. > >"What's in it? - it included 6.2 million pounds of lead compounds >spread on fields, 1.3 million pounds of chromium compounds, 233,000 >pounds of cadmium compounds, 212,000 pounds of nickel compounds, >16,000 pounds of mercury compounds and 223 pounds of arsenic >compounds." > >So the CEOs and directors of these 600 companies are quite happy to >poison their own children - this stuff ends up on their own dinner >tables. This is totally insane, I'm sure you'll agree. But if you're >a corporation, then it makes perfectly good sense. It also makes >perfectly good sense to the institutions like the EPA which okays it >and the government that obligingly passed the laws required. I don't >believe any of the people involved are insane, though their >behaviour certainly is, by human standards. >If you think about it a bit you'll find no end of this stuff, again >there's tons of it in the list archives. It's normal behaviour. But >normal for whom? Humans? Best Keith >Mike Weaver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Or, it takes a certain degree of madness to be sane in this world. You >have to be a touch crazy to be able to be happy and go on with your life >given what's going on. > >-Weaver > > >Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > Of course there is a distribution but there is demarcation. A criteria > > is set and 4% +- some deviation qualify as full blown nutters. > > We arent injection molded thermoplastic caricatures. There is a living > > dynamic. But the author builds a good case that there is a 4% you > > wouldnt leave alone with your children. Nor should you leave them in > > office. Or on a board of directors etc etc. poor perception and slow > > learning were in the next 16%. They are the people that exhibit > > psychopathic behavior if their boss is a psychopath. On their own they > > are somewhat inhibited. The 4% are worse. Much worse. These 4% are > > destroying civilization while the "sheep" look for the good in man. > > The sheep better deal with the wolves. It isnt getting better on its own. > > http://www.cassiopaea.org/cass/sanity_1.PdF > > Read the classic, and the article. Then decide if the author is > > chicken little and the sky is falling. > > > > Kirk > > > > */[EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: > > > > While I haven't read the books, I would be inclined to suspect that > > the population is not divided into a small minority who are 100% > > sociopathic plus a majority who are not at all sociopathic, but > > that there > > is something like a continuum with the "pure" sociopaths at one end. > > > > I suspect further that there might be several factors involved, > > perhaps > > > > * slow social learning; Eysenck's "extraversion" > > > > * poor perception of other peoples' feelings > > > > * indifference to other peoples' feelings > > > > > > Doug Woodard > > St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada > > > > On Sat, 5 Aug 2006, Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > > > http://cassiopaea.com/cassiopaea/psychopath.htm > > > Provided you are not forcibly stopped, you can do anything at all. > > > If you are born at the right time, with some access to family > > fortune, and you have a special talent for whipping up other > > people's hatred and sense of deprivation, you can arrange to kill > > large numbers of unsuspecting people. With enough money, you can > > accomplish this from far away, and you can sit back safely and > > watch in satisfaction. [...] > > > Crazy and frightening - and real, in about 4 percent of the > > population.... > > > > [snip] _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
