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> How about keeping an open mind Bob. I try, but I also try to guard against gullibility. Here is a link to a couple of spills of fly ash related material from the Martin creek plant. Oh, I guess they could be importing fly ash from some other plant to fake the spills to throw us all off... http://www.mcall.com/news/local/all-b4_3pplfolo-1aug16,0,6175405.story If it looks like a coal fired plant, and spills like a coal fired plant, then the the simplest explanation is that it is in fact a coal fired plant. http://www.pplweb.com/community+partners/our+education+programs/directions+to+ppl+facilities.htm Maybe some intrepid soul could go check it out first hand: "Martins Creek Plant From points south (Easton): Take Route 611 North to the traffic signal in the village of Martins Creek. Turn right, continuing on Route 611. Travel another mile on Route 611. At the top of the hill, veer off Route 611 by continuing straight ahead onto the Martins Creek/Belvidere Highway. Drive another 3 miles. Turn right onto Foul Rift Road (there is a yellow farmhouse on the right). This road will lead you to the plant. At the Y in the road after the Tekening hiking trailhead, make a right to head toward the parking lots. You may park in the stone lot to the right or in the main parking lot to the left and proceed to the guardhouse. Workshops are held in the second-floor conference room at the power plant." Kirk McLoren wrote: > > > */bob allen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote: > > Howdy Kirk, I scanned the first part of the article and to be honest > found it lacking. The author either doesn't edit or hasn't a clue > about power plant functioning, cooling requirements or capacity. > > > " These gigantic structures were atomic style cooling towers usually > only seen at nuclear power plants where they guard the reactors as the > Sphinx guards the great Pyramids. What were these conical structures > doing in Foul Rift? I had never heard of nuclear plants in Western New > Jersey. Something was completely out of place!..." > > > > there is no such thing as an "atomic style cooling tower" any heat > engine requires cooling, and coal fired plants use exactly the same > type of cooling tower. > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Nukes run at a lower thermal efficiency for safety reasons. > Temperature and thus pressure are lower than in oil or coal steam > plants. This increases the cooling tower load per killowatt thus > nuke plants have larger towers than equivalent hydrocarbon > installations. The size is the issue here. Other issues he made were > the rails showed no sign of use and thirdly the "oil " storage tanks > also showed no maintenance. So he describes a plant with anomolously > large cooling towers and no visible fueling infrastructure. > > Also in hydrocarbon installations I have seen the tower is > different, maybe 3 stories. The tower is to direct cooling air and > discharged water vapor such that it doesnt re enter the heat > exchangers. The nuclear plants have such large requirements a large > structure is required to ensure no mixing. > > How about keeping an open mind Bob. You didnt read what he said as > near as I can tell. > > > Kirk McLoren wrote: > > http://www.rene-r.com/essays/the-mystery-of-martins-creek.html > > > > In one man's opinion, I think that the Martin's Creek plant may > just be > > the tip of the ice berg. > . > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited > <http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=40791/*http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/handraisers> > > to try the new Yahoo! Mail Beta. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Bob Allen,http://ozarker.org/bob ------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------------------------------------------------------------- The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in moral philosophy; that is, the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG -------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
