>No Keith, that's not what I'm saying. > >A lie is a lie, regardless of who tells it. If President Bush did >the things that made Clinton famous, or infamous, I'd be screaming >for him to be impreached too. There are things that the President is >doing, as well as not doing, that I take exception to. I don't see >the present administration threatening to pull the license of >a broadcast network, or trying violate ABC's First Amendment >Right, but the Democrat/Liberals are. They're calling out the >figurative Storm Troopers, which is the typical scare tactic.
Er, you haven't noticed the current administration's antics with the FCC, eg, and with just about every media protection the US ever had? Maybe you sh (a) wake up just a little and (b) do some homework (a helluva lot) - the list archives is a great place to start. Best Keith >Keith Addison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >I hope Disney grows some major cojones, ones the size of 16lb > >bowling balls, calls the Democrat/Liberal bluff, & runs the mini > >series anyway. Sounds to me like the Clinton Admistration's Legacy > >will stand up to what's in the mini series like a vampire does to > >sunlight. > >So Gregg, it doesn't matter if it's all lies and disinfo just as long >as it supports the good guys (Republicans) and attacks the evil ones >(Clinton), is that what you're saying? > >Best > >Keith > > > >Mike Weaver wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >This letter was sent today by the entire Democratic leadership of the US > > >Senate. This letter is such a major shot across the bow of Disney, it's > > >not even > > >funny. It is FILLED with veiled threats, both legal and legislative, > > >against > > >Disney. US Senators don't make threats like this, especially the entire > > >Democratic leadership en masse, unless they mean it. Disney is in serious > > >trouble. > > > > > >Read it, then read my analysis of it below: > > >September 7, 2006 > > > > > >Mr. Robert A. Iger > > >President and CEO > > >The Walt Disney Company > > >500 South Buena Vista Street > > >Burbank CA 91521 > > > > > >Dear Mr. Iger, > > > > > >We write with serious concerns about the planned upcoming broadcast of The > > >Path to 9/11 mini-series on September 10 and 11. Countless reports from > > >experts on 9/11 who have viewed the program indicate numerous and serious > > >inaccuracies that will undoubtedly serve to misinform the American people > > >about the > > >tragic events surrounding the terrible attacks of that day. Furthermore, > > >the > > >manner in which this program has been developed, funded, and advertised > > >suggests a partisan bent unbecoming of a major company like Disney and a > > >major and > > >well respected news organization like ABC. We therefore urge you to > > >cancel > > >this broadcast to cease Disneyâ*s plans to use it as a teaching tool in > > >schools > > >across America through Scholastic. Presenting such deeply flawed and > > >factually inaccurate misinformation to the American public and to children > > >would be a > > >gross miscarriage of your corporate and civic responsibility to the law, > > >to > > >your shareholders, and to the nation. > > > > > >The Communications Act of 1934 provides your network with a free broadcast > > >license predicated on the fundamental understanding of your principle > > >obligation to act as a trustee of the public airwaves in serving the > > >public interest. > > >Nowhere is this public interest obligation more apparent than in the duty > > >of > > >broadcasters to serve the civic needs of a democracy by promoting an open > > >and accurate discussion of political ideas and events. > > > > > >Disney and ABC claim this program to be based on the 9/11 Commission > > >Report > > >and are using that assertion as part of the promotional campaign for it. > > >The > > >9/11 Commission is the most respected American authority on the 9/11 > > >attacks, > > >and association with it carries a special responsibility. Indeed, the very > > >events themselves on 9/11, so tragic as they were, demand extreme care by > > >any > > >who attempt to use those events as part of an entertainment or educational > > >program. To quote Steve McPhereson, president of ABC Entertainment, > > >â*When you > > >take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such an important > > >event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right.â* > > > > > >Unfortunately, it appears Disney and ABC got it totally wrong. > > > > > >Despite claims by your networkâ*s representatives that The Path to 9/11 > > >is > > >based on the report of the 9/11 Commission, 9/11 Commissioners themselves, > > >as > > >well as other experts on the issues, disagree. > > > > > >Richard Ben-Veniste, speaking for himself and fellow 9/11 Commissioners > > >who > > >recently viewed the program, said, â*As we were watching, we were trying > > >to > > >think how they could have misinterpreted the 9/11 Commissionâ*s findings > > >the way > > >that they had.â* [â*9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and > > >Biased,â* > > >New York Times, September 6, 2006] > > > > > >Richard Clarke, the former counter-terrorism czar, and a national security > > >advisor to ABC has described the program as â*deeply flawedâ* and said > > >of the > > >programâ*s depiction of a Clinton official hanging up on an intelligence > > >agent, > > >â*Itâ*s 180 degrees from what happened.â* [â*9/11 Miniseries Is > > >Criticized as > > >Inaccurate and Biased,â* New York Times, September 6, 2006] > > > > > >Reports suggest that an FBI agent who worked on 9/11 and served as a > > >consultant to ABC on this program quit halfway through because, â*he > > >thought they > > >were making things up.â* [MSNBC, September 7, 2006] > > > > > >Even Thomas Kean, who serves as a paid consultant to the miniseries, has > > >admitted that scenes in the film are fictionalized. [â*9/11 Miniseries Is > > >Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,â* New York Times, September 6, 2006] > > > > > >That Disney would seek to broadcast an admittedly and proven false > > >recounting of the events of 9/11 raises serious questions about the > > >motivations of its > > >creators and those who approved the deeply flawed program. Finally, that > > >Disney plans to air commercial-free a program that reportedly cost it $40 > > >million to produce serves to add fuel to these concerns. > > > > > >These concerns are made all the more pressing by the political leaning of > > >and the public statements made by the writer/producer of this miniseries, > > >Mr. > > >Cyrus Nowrasteh, in promoting this miniseries across conservative blogs > > >and > > >talk shows. > > > > > >Frankly, that ABC and Disney would consider airing a program that could be > > >construed as right-wing political propaganda on such a grave and important > > >event involving the security of our nation is a discredit both to the > > >Disney > > >brand and to the legacy of honesty built at ABC by honorable individuals > > >from > > >David Brinkley to Peter Jennings. Furthermore, that Disney would seek to > > >use > > >Scholastic to promote this misguided programming to American children as a > > >substitute for factual information is a disgrace. > > > > > >As 9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick said, â*It is critically > > >important > > >to the safety of our nation that our citizens, and particularly our school > > >children, understand what actually happened and why â* so that we can > > >proceed > > >from a common understanding of what went wrong and act with unity to make > > >our > > >country safer.â* > > > > > >Should Disney allow this programming to proceed as planned, the factual > > >record, millions of viewers, countless schoolchildren, and the reputation > > >of > > >Disney as a corporation worthy of the trust of the American people and > > >the > > >United States Congress will be deeply damaged. We urge you, after full > > >consideration of the facts, to uphold your responsibilities as a respected > > >member of > > >American society and as a beneficiary of the free use of the public > > >airwaves to > > >cancel this factually inaccurate and deeply misguided program. We look > > >forward to hearing back from you soon. > > > > > >Sincerely, > > > > > >Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid > > >Assistant Democratic Leader Dick Durbin > > >Senator Debbie Stabenow > > >Senator Charles Schumer > > >Senator Byron Dorgan > > >The Senate Democratic leadership just threatened Disney's broadcast > > >license. > > >Not the use of the word "trustee" at the beginning of the letter and > > >"trust" > > >at the end. This is nothing less than an implicit threat that if Disney > > >tries to meddle in the US elections on behalf of the Republicans, they > > >will pay a > > >very serious price when the Democrats get back in power, or even before. > > > > > >This raises the stakes incredibly for Disney. > > > > > >The Society that tries to find rationality in the acts of >irrational men is > > >largely a waste of time... > > >les aaron > > > > > >THE COMMITTEE FOR POSITIVE CHANGE > > >www.lesaaron.blogspot.com > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > >Check the weather nationwide with MSN Search: Try it now! > >http://search.msn.com/results.aspx?q=weather&FORM=WLMTAG > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 08:57:04 EDT > >Subject: [OnlineDemocrats] (no subject) > > > >Maybe there's a hidden little spine tucked away somewhere in the > >Democrat leadership's collection back. They normally roll over and > >play dead for the repugs and the media but it seems like this has > >hit a bit of a raw nerve. Seems like there might still be a little > >life left in the old dogs after all. > > > >Jim Langford > >"Being a patriot no longer requires a cannon. But it still takes > >balls". Glen Greenwald > > > >Thursday, September 07, 2006 > > > >>-threatens.html>Senate Democratic leadership threatens Disney with > >legal and legislative sanctions > >by John in DC - 9/07/2006 06:02:00 PM > > > >This letter was sent today by the entire Democratic leadership of > >the US Senate. This letter is such a major shot across the bow of > >Disney, it's not even funny. It is FILLED with veiled threats, both > >legal and legislative, against Disney. US Senators don't make > >threats like this, especially the entire Democratic leadership en > >masse, unless they mean it. Disney is in serious trouble. > > > >Read it, then read my analysis of it below: > > > >September 7, 2006 > > > >Mr. Robert A. Iger > >President and CEO > >The Walt Disney Company > >500 South Buena Vista Street > >Burbank CA 91521 > > > >Dear Mr. Iger, > > > >We write with serious concerns about the planned upcoming broadcast > >of The Path to 9/11 mini-series on September 10 and 11. Countless > >reports from experts on 9/11 who have viewed the program indicate > >numerous and serious inaccuracies that will undoubtedly serve to > >misinform the American people about the tragic events surrounding > >the terrible attacks of that day. Furthermore, the manner in which > >this program has been developed, funded, and advertised suggests a > >partisan bent unbecoming of a major company like Disney and a major > >and well respected news organization like ABC. We therefore urge you > >to cancel this broadcast to cease Disneyâ*s plans to use it as a > >teaching tool in schools across America through Scholastic. > >Presenting such deeply flawed and factually inaccurate > >misinformation to the American public and to children would be a > >gross miscarriage of your corporate and civic responsibility to the > >law, to your shareholders, and to the nation. > > > >The Communications Act of 1934 provides your network with a free > >broadcast license predicated on the fundamental understanding of > >your principle obligation to act as a trustee of the public airwaves > >in serving the public interest. Nowhere is this public interest > >obligation more apparent than in the duty of broadcasters to serve > >the civic needs of a democracy by promoting an open and accurate > >discussion of political ideas and events. > > > >Disney and ABC claim this program to be based on the 9/11 Commission > >Report and are using that assertion as part of the promotional > >campaign for it. The 9/11 Commission is the most respected American > >authority on the 9/11 attacks, and association with it carries a > >special responsibility. Indeed, the very events themselves on 9/11, > >so tragic as they were, demand extreme care by any who attempt to > >use those events as part of an entertainment or educational program. > >To quote Steve McPhereson, president of ABC Entertainment, â*When > >you take on the responsibility of telling the story behind such an > >important event, it is absolutely critical that you get it right.â* > > > >Unfortunately, it appears Disney and ABC got it totally wrong. > > > >Despite claims by your networkâ*s representatives that The Path to > >9/11 is based on the report of the 9/11 Commission, 9/11 > >Commissioners themselves, as well as other experts on the issues, > >disagree. > > > >Richard Ben-Veniste, speaking for himself and fellow 9/11 > >Commissioners who recently viewed the program, said, â*As we were > >watching, we were trying to think how they could have misinterpreted > >the 9/11 Commissionâ*s findings the way that they had.â* [â*9/11 > >Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,â* New York > >Times, September 6, 2006] > > > >Richard Clarke, the former counter-terrorism czar, and a national > >security advisor to ABC has described the program as â*deeply > >flawedâ* and said of the programâ*s depiction of a Clinton > >official hanging up on an intelligence agent, â*Itâ*s 180 degrees > >from what happened.â* [â*9/11 Miniseries Is Criticized as > >Inaccurate and Biased,â* New York Times, September 6, 2006] > > > >Reports suggest that an FBI agent who worked on 9/11 and served as a > >consultant to ABC on this program quit halfway through because, > >â*he thought they were making things up.â* [MSNBC, September 7, > >2006] > > > >Even Thomas Kean, who serves as a paid consultant to the miniseries, > >has admitted that scenes in the film are fictionalized. [â*9/11 > >Miniseries Is Criticized as Inaccurate and Biased,â* New York > >Times, September 6, 2006] > > > >That Disney would seek to broadcast an admittedly and proven false > >recounting of the events of 9/11 raises serious questions about the > >motivations of its creators and those who approved the deeply flawed > >program. Finally, that Disney plans to air commercial-free a program > >that reportedly cost it $40 million to produce serves to add fuel to > >these concerns. > > > >These concerns are made all the more pressing by the political > >leaning of and the public statements made by the writer/producer of > >this miniseries, Mr. Cyrus Nowrasteh, in promoting this miniseries > >across conservative blogs and talk shows. > > > >Frankly, that ABC and Disney would consider airing a program that > >could be construed as right-wing political propaganda on such a > >grave and important event involving the security of our nation is a > >discredit both to the Disney brand and to the legacy of honesty > >built at ABC by honorable individuals from David Brinkley to Peter > >Jennings. Furthermore, that Disney would seek to use Scholastic to > >promote this misguided programming to American children as a > >substitute for factual information is a disgrace. > > > >As 9/11 Commission member Jamie Gorelick said, â*It is critically > >important to the safety of our nation that our citizens, and > >particularly our school children, understand what actually happened > >and why â* so that we can proceed from a common understanding of > >what went wrong and act with unity to make our country safer.â* > > > >Should Disney allow this programming to proceed as planned, the > >factual record, millions of viewers, countless schoolchildren, and > >the reputation of Disney as a corporation worthy of the trust of the > >American people and the United States Congress will be deeply > >damaged. We urge you, after full consideration of the facts, to > >uphold your responsibilities as a respected member of American > >society and as a beneficiary of the free use of the public airwaves > >to cancel this factually inaccurate and deeply misguided program. We > >look forward to hearing back from you soon. > > > >Sincerely, > > > >Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid > >Assistant Democratic Leader Dick Durbin > >Senator Debbie Stabenow > >Senator Charles Schumer > >Senator Byron Dorgan > > > >The Senate Democratic leadership just threatened Disney's broadcast > >license. Not the use of the word "trustee" at the beginning of the > >letter and "trust" at the end. This is nothing less than an implicit > >threat that if Disney tries to meddle in the US elections on behalf > >of the Republicans, they will pay a very serious price when the > >Democrats get back in power, or even before. > > > >This raises the stakes incredibly for Disney. _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/