D. Mindock wrote: > Hi Mike, > I think Weston Price would say to drink raw milk. When > milk is pastuerized and homogenized, it becomes harmful > to the body. So those drinking less of the bad milk in the > Harvard study would actually be better off. > Myself, I don't drink milk unless I can get it raw and organic. > http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/10/13/food/0_03_1110_12_06.txt
Raw organic milk that sickened California children now OK http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003280686_spinach29m.html Two children have been sickened in another episode of E. coli infection, this time from drinking raw milk from a Whatcom County dairy. A 5-year-old boy from Issaquah was still hospitalized with the illness Thursday, while an 8-year-old girl from Snohomish County was recovering at home, said state health officials and a spokeswoman for a store that sold the milk. http://www.sciencedaily.com/upi/index.php?feed=Science&article=UPI-1-20061013-01412200-bc-britain-tb.xml Small TB outbreak traced to raw milk > Also, even better, is to add kefir culture to it. I think the Hunzas > drink their milk cultured, not straight up. > Peace, D. Mindock > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:12 PM > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as Anesthesia > WasTestimonials as Evidence) > > > >> From the can't-help-but-stick-my-toe-in dept. >> >> Caveat: No proof other than what I've read over the years. >> >> It has always seemed to me that the maladies that people suffer from are >> in large part due to environment/lifestyle. In the third world, >> disease is far more likely to be as a result of the lack of food and >> adequate nutrition, wheras in the developed world, we suffer from the >> diseaeses of affluence: diabetis being the one that comes to mind, >> along with obesity-related ailments such as heart disease, high blood >> pressure, strokes and so on. Smoking is another factor. >> >> Another interesting item, from Harvard University's website: >> >> In particular, these studies suggest that high calcium intake doesn't >> actually appear to lower a person's risk for osteoporosis. For example, >> in the large Harvard studies of male health professionals and female >> nurses, individuals who drank one glass of milk (or less) per week were >> at no greater risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were those who >> drank two or more glasses per week.(2, 3 >> <http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html#references>) >> Other studies have found similar results. >> >> It is odd human beings are the only animal that develop "a disease" if >> they don't eat the milk of another species. Dogs don't need cat milk. >> >> bob allen wrote: >> >> >>> Howdy Terry, >>> >>> Terry Dyck wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> HI Bob, >>>> >>>> The Western world has the highest rate of Cancer, Heart disease, >>>> Diabetes, >>>> Respiratory problems and other ailments in the world. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> oh really, and your source for these "facts" is? are the data age >>> adjusted, etc. and just what "other" ailments are included. This is the >>> issue I have with you and others, you make what I feel are overly broad >>> statements as fact, without little or no support. So give me >>> reference or two so I can draw my own conclusions. >>> >>> or how about just statistic at a time to discuss. How about age >>> adjusted cancer rates? (age adjusting is necessary as cancer is >>> essentially inevitable, the longer you live the more likely you are to >>> get cancer. >>> >>> >>> show me the data please. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> On the other hand >>>> there is a valley in the middle of the Himalayan mountains called >>>> Hunzaland >>>> that is an almost disease free area. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> I have heard this canard before. I googled hunzaland and about the only >>> thing I got were people hawking their particular "cure" >>> >>> The Apricot Kernel Anti-Cancer Theory >>> http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/land_of_hunza.htm >>> >>> or how about 160+ year olds >>> http://www.arthritis-nature-cure.com/people.htm >>> >>> do really believe that? really, you don't think someone could be less >>> than forthright to make a point about a product the promote? >>> >>> or maybe it's the magnetized water >>> http://www.stopcancer.com/magnetpHFoundation2.htm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> A pure organic food diet and almost no >>>> pollution could be the reason for people having good health. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> or it could all be a bunch of hype. How do we know with out better >>> documentation? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob >>>>> ========================================================= >>>>> The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's oldest exercises in >>>>> moral philosophy; that is, >>>>> the search for a superior moral justification for selfishness JKG >>>>> >>>>> > > > _______________________________________________ > Biofuel mailing list > Biofuel@sustainablelists.org > http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > > Biofuel at Journey to Forever: > http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > > Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): > http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > > > > > > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/