I try not to respond. I grew up in a household of 3 chemical engineers with an average of 2.5 masters between them .. brilliant people and I frequently could enjoy being a member of that household .. except when I was trying to walk them through traffic .. and, lord please forgive me .. when I was begged to go clothes shopping with my sister .. retired as head of patents for a large chemical company but couldn't understand something like sizes and appropriate dress for different occasions.
I dressed her pretty much through most of her extremely successful career. My problem was understanding how they could be simply amazed when something in a test tube would respond in one way but would respond quite differently .. say in a human body .. they weren't just joking .. they really couldn't understand it. To believe in the physical, just the physical, and only the physical leaves the rest of the universe ignored .. and I don't believe the rest of the universe needs to be ignored. As I've said before, I work with animals .. no such thing as placebo .. I love success. .. and because I love success I'll share with you all Graviola, Andrographis, Chaparral, Neem .. they are all easily obtainable and common herbs that have a great track record against cancer .. also a great success story for about the cost of $60.00. As Rose (on another list) says in her signature .. for those who say it can't be done, please get out of the way of those who are doing it. Mary Lynn Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior Modification . Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy Practitioner . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . The Animal Connection Healing Modalities http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ http://allcreatureconnections.org >From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Subject: Re: >[Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials >asEvidence) >Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:06:24 -0600 > >Bob, what you don't understand, you automatically do your quackwatch >routine. >Asking you to try to go beyond your built-in wall of prejudices is silly of >me to >ask of you. So I won't. Don't ask for references or "science". You have >your >thoughts on things and that is the final word for you. Science is only a >method, a tool, to get something believed to have a chance of being true to >be >verified. It doesn't explain the leap of intuition that creates the >hypothesis in >the first place. Homeopathy has been used successfully for quite some time. >That science cannot explain it does not mean it is not valid. Science >is merely a method. Where did the hypothesis come from? Explain that. >Peace and light, D. Mindock > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "bob allen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> >Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 11:53 AM >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] >Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials asEvidence) > > > > Sorry but I have to jump in here with the mention of homeopathy. This > > is the silliest most counter-intuitive medical mubo-jumbo on the > > planet. there is zero valid support for the idea that something which > > causes a symptom at high doses (what ever that means) is cured by > > something at extremely low doses. And I mean extreme. Substances are > > diluted to 10 to the 120th power and more. At this concentration there > > is nothing left at all. A little critical thinking goes a long way >here. > > > > There may be some herbs out there for which there is credible evidence > > for efficacy, but as far as homeopathy goes- it is nonsense. > > > > Marylynn Schmidt wrote: > >> Just my thoughts on the matter of bone (or anything) re-growth .. > >> > >> We are a whole and the whole must be treated so going to a dentist for > >> bone > >> re-growth and/or gum tissue re-growth is as much of a separation of >self > >> as > >> seeing the heart specialist for heart problems, the dermatologist for > >> skin > >> problems, etc > >> > >> Your mouth, gums, jaw bone, teeth are still a part of the whole .. > >> nothing > >> is going to exist in isolation inside the human physical body. > >> > >> Do you know a good herbalist? I'm thinking something missing .. but if > >> you > >> have some level of toxic substance as a core problem (don't we all), >then > >> homeopathy could be the road. > >> > >> Mary Lynn > >> Rev. Mary Lynn Schmidt, Ordained Minister > >> ONE SPIRIT ONE HEART > >> TTouch . Reiki . Pet Loss Grief Counseling . Animal Behavior >Modification > >> . > >> Shamanic Spiritual Travel . Behavior Problems . Psionic Energy > >> Practitioner > >> . Radionics . Herbs . Dowsing . Nutrition . Homeopathy . Polarity . > >> The Animal Connection Healing Modalities > >> http://members.tripod.com/~MLSchmidt/ > >> http://allcreatureconnections.org > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>> From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > >>> Subject: Re: > >>> [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials > >>> asEvidence) > >>> Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2006 09:48:58 -0500 > >>> > >>> Hi Mike, > >>> Yep, Linus Pauling was a true truth seeker, a beautiful human >being. > >>> I've been doing a bit of research on periodontal disease. It seems > >>> that > >>> there is alot going on that my dentist doesn't know about. He just >wants > >>> to > >>> pull teeth and put in partial plates. But there are dentists who can > >>> stop > >>> the > >>> disease and get bone and gums to regrow. So I will try to hook up with > >>> one > >>> and see if he can do something to save a couple teeth. I've talked >with > >>> a > >>> friend > >>> who has partials and he hates them. > >>> I agree that flu shots are a bad idea. My wife doesn't get them >even > >>> if they're > >>> free. Her company brought in a couple nurses and offered all employees > >>> free > >>> flu > >>> shots. She passed. She says she feels uncomfortable for a few days >after > >>> getting the shot > >>> doesn't like the feeling. You just don't know what's in there besides > >>> the > >>> crippled virus. > >>> She and I work at keeping ourselves as healthy as possible and don't > >>> take > >>> our health > >>> for granted. > >>> Yep, being ornery does help. The mind-body connection is very >real. > >>> The mind controls > >>> your health to a large degree. Being stubbornly optimistic or happy is >a > >>> good way to keep the sick > >>> bugs at bay. > >>> Peace and joy, D. Mindock > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: M&K DuPree > >>> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 6:09 PM > >>> Subject: Re: > >>> [Biofuel]Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials > >>> asEvidence) > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi D...good idea collecting the water thru the Pur first then > >>> distilling. Muy excellente!!! > >>> Linus Pauling...a true hero. > >>> Man, sorry to hear about the periodontal stuff. But glad you > >>> have > >>> a remedy. > >>> The colloidal silver I keep hearing about, but haven't tried. > >>> Just > >>> haven't felt the need. The wife and I don't do the flu shot stuff, >but > >>> with whatever else we're doing, the years keep rolling by so far >without > >>> any viral problems. Maybe being a bit ornery helps. > >>> Mike > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: D. Mindock > >>> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 10:41 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] > >>> Closed-Mindedness(WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Mike, > >>> Yeah, my distiller has that drip thingy too. But I don't trust >it > >>> very much. It is just > >>> too small and the water merely flows over a the carbon granules. >So > >>> I > >>> use a faucet > >>> mounted carbon block filter. It is a Pur but Brita and some others > >>> make them too. > >>> I collect that filtered water and then distill it. > >>> I am familiar with Bronson. I think that is the company that > >>> Linus > >>> Pauling used as > >>> his source for vitamin C. > >>> Ok about the vit & min supplement. You got your bases covered. >I > >>> take the same > >>> stuff, basically. Because I have periodontal disease, I also take > >>> grapefruit seed extract, olive leaf extract, > >>> and MSM. If I layoff taking these, I get a bloody toothbrush that > >>> reminds me that I need > >>> to stay with the program. Oh, and I do take colloidal silver too. > >>> Peace & light, D. Mindock > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: M&K DuPree > >>> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:37 PM > >>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness > >>> (WasHypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi D...regarding removing the gases, the distiller I use >finishes > >>> the process by dripping the water through a carbon filter. Is this >what > >>> you're talking about? > >>> Regarding the mineral replacement, I take a vitamin and > >>> mineral > >>> supplement from a company called Bronson. They call it "Insurance > >>> Formula." It is a formulation based on a book written by a Dr. Roger >J. > >>> Williams, The Wonderful World Within You (Bantam, 1977) (How's that >for > >>> documentation, Bob?) It's been ages since I've read the book, so can't > >>> tell > >>> you a damn thing about it. We buy direct from Bronson, not a >multilevel > >>> deal or anything. Prices seem real good, so have never considered > >>> anything > >>> else. > >>> Mike DuPree > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: D. Mindock > >>> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>> Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2006 1:58 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was > >>> HypnosisasAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi Mike, > >>> Yep, homogenization breaks the particles down to such a > >>> small > >>> size that they > >>> can pass through the gut into the body cavity where they put a > >>> burden on the immune > >>> system. Pastuerization adds to the problem by destroying the > >>> "life > >>> force" of the > >>> milk, the enzymes. Of course the milk has to be from a healthy > >>> animal that is grass > >>> fed. Soy is controversial in that it has hormonal effects. >Also > >>> it > >>> is a GM crop with > >>> all that that implies. But if you seem to be thriving on it, >eh, > >>> what the heck? > >>> WRT distilled water, just take an extra mineral tablet each > >>> day. > >>> That's what I do. The thing with distillers is that they are > >>> poor > >>> wrt to removing > >>> volatile gases, like benzene, etc. So I run the water through >a > >>> carbon filter like > >>> that from Pur to get those gases out. Also there's the removal > >>> of > >>> lead, cadmium, > >>> etc., then the distiller cleans up the residual. So the water >is > >>> pretty clean. It is strange > >>> though that the Pur filter allows the flouride to pass >through. > >>> Who needs that crap? > >>> Anyway, the distiller removes it. > >>> Peace and light, D. Mindock > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: M&K DuPree > >>> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 9:39 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis > >>> asAnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) > >>> > >>> > >>> Hi D and Mike...isn't homogenized milk whipped up into > >>> incredibly small particles that actually scar the lining of the > >>> esophagus > >>> and arteries, thereby, allowing cholesterol to more easily coagulate > >>> along > >>> the linings? Whether or not it does, I say "soy milk." I know I > >>> know...tastes terrible, to some. But I only use it on cereals and a > >>> couple > >>> of desserts. Plenty of other stuff to be drinking, like....uh, > >>> water....distilled of course...I know I know minerals etc > >>> etc...hey...distilled....period...and don't bother me about taste...if > >>> you > >>> can taste it, it ain't water you're tasting! Yeah, I'm closed minded >on > >>> this one!! LOL Mike DuPree > >>> > >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >>> From: "D. Mindock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 2:56 AM > >>> Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as > >>> AnesthesiaWasTestimonials as Evidence) > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Mike, > >>> > I think Weston Price would say to drink raw milk. When > >>> > milk is pastuerized and homogenized, it becomes harmful > >>> > to the body. So those drinking less of the bad milk in the > >>> > Harvard study would actually be better off. > >>> > Myself, I don't drink milk unless I can get it raw and > >>> organic. > >>> > Also, even better, is to add kefir culture to it. I think > >>> the > >>> Hunzas > >>> > drink their milk cultured, not straight up. > >>> > Peace, D. Mindock > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ----- Original Message ----- > >>> > From: "Mike Weaver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org> > >>> > Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2006 6:12 PM > >>> > Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Closed-Mindedness (Was Hypnosis as > >>> Anesthesia > >>> > WasTestimonials as Evidence) > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >> From the can't-help-but-stick-my-toe-in dept. > >>> >> > >>> >> Caveat: No proof other than what I've read over the >years. > >>> >> > >>> >> It has always seemed to me that the maladies that people > >>> suffer from are > >>> >> in large part due to environment/lifestyle. In the third > >>> world, > >>> >> disease is far more likely to be as a result of the lack >of > >>> food and > >>> >> adequate nutrition, wheras in the developed world, we > >>> suffer > >>> > >> >from the > >> > >>> >> diseaeses of affluence: diabetis being the one that >comes > >>> to > >>> mind, > >>> >> along with obesity-related ailments such as heart >disease, > >>> high blood > >>> >> pressure, strokes and so on. Smoking is another factor. > >>> >> > >>> >> Another interesting item, from Harvard University's > >>> website: > >>> >> > >>> >> In particular, these studies suggest that high calcium > >>> intake > >>> doesn't > >>> >> actually appear to lower a person's risk for >osteoporosis. > >>> For example, > >>> >> in the large Harvard studies of male health professionals > >>> and > >>> female > >>> >> nurses, individuals who drank one glass of milk (or less) > >>> per > >>> week were > >>> >> at no greater risk of breaking a hip or forearm than were > >>> those who > >>> >> drank two or more glasses per week.(2, 3 > >>> >> > >>> <http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/calcium.html#references>) > >>> >> Other studies have found similar results. > >>> >> > >>> >> It is odd human beings are the only animal that develop >"a > >>> disease" if > >>> >> they don't eat the milk of another species. Dogs don't > >>> need > >>> cat milk. > >>> >> > >>> >> bob allen wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >>>Howdy Terry, > >>> >>> > >>> >>>Terry Dyck wrote: > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>>HI Bob, > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>>The Western world has the highest rate of Cancer, Heart > >>> disease, > >>> >>>>Diabetes, > >>> >>>>Respiratory problems and other ailments in the world. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>oh really, and your source for these "facts" is? are the > >>> data age > >>> >>>adjusted, etc. and just what "other" ailments are >included. > >>> This is the > >>> >>>issue I have with you and others, you make what I feel >are > >>> overly broad > >>> >>>statements as fact, without little or no support. So >give > >>> me > >>> >>>reference or two so I can draw my own conclusions. > >>> >>> > >>> >>>or how about just statistic at a time to discuss. How > >>> about > >>> age > >>> >>>adjusted cancer rates? (age adjusting is necessary as > >>> cancer > >>> is > >>> >>>essentially inevitable, the longer you live the more >likely > >>> you are to > >>> >>>get cancer. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> show me the data please. > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> On the other hand > >>> >>>>there is a valley in the middle of the Himalayan >mountains > >>> called > >>> >>>>Hunzaland > >>> >>>>that is an almost disease free area. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>I have heard this canard before. I googled hunzaland and > >>> about the only > >>> >>>thing I got were people hawking their particular "cure" > >>> >>> > >>> >>> The Apricot Kernel Anti-Cancer Theory > >>> >>> http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/land_of_hunza.htm > >>> >>> > >>> >>>or how about 160+ year olds > >>> >>>http://www.arthritis-nature-cure.com/people.htm > >>> >>> > >>> >>>do really believe that? really, you don't think someone > >>> could be less > >>> >>>than forthright to make a point about a product the > >>> promote? > >>> >>> > >>> >>>or maybe it's the magnetized water > >>> >>>http://www.stopcancer.com/magnetpHFoundation2.htm > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>> A pure organic food diet and almost no > >>> >>>>pollution could be the reason for people having good > >>> health. > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>> > >>> >>>or it could all be a bunch of hype. How do we know with >out > >>> better > >>> >>>documentation? > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>>>>-- > >>> >>>>>Bob Allen, http://ozarker.org/bob > >>> > >>>>>========================================================= > >>> >>>>>The modern conservative is engaged in one of Man's >oldest > >>> exercises in > >>> >>>>>moral philosophy; that is, > >>> >>>>>the search for a superior moral justification for > >>> selfishness JKG > >>> >>>>> > >>> > > > >>> > >>> > > > > -- > > > > > > Bob Allen, ozarker.org/bob > > ------------------------------ > > Actually we are all atheists. When you understand why you have > > rejected every other God but one, then you will understand why I have > > rejected yours. -Author unknown > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
