It is something that I intend to fiddle with soon. I like ethanol as it won't blind you only makes you see double temporarily ;^).
Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Kelly<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 11:38 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Ethanol to make ethyl esters makes good sense. Not only renewable, but carbon neutral as well. May have to tweak the process a bit ..... vacuum to reduce water in oil? Use high quality WVO or do an Acid Stage to reduce FFAs. Haven't heard of anyone using ethanol and the Foolproof Method. Worth the effort I'd think. Will make for interesting discussion when ethanol (99%+) becomes available. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: JAMES PHELPS<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Francisco, I predict that Biodiesel producers will start working with ethanol as a result of these price increases, this is a good thing and it needs to happen, when it does that means the biodiesel produced with ethanol is 100% renewable and not independent on a chemical produced with natural gas. After all when we run out of gas, that is what we will have to use anyway. The current timing is right as there are several hundred Ethanol plants across the US gearing up for production in 2007. We have one within 80 miles that I will start buying from when my methanol is out. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: FRANCISCO<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org> Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? I assume the metanol demand world wide is increasing as biofuels production are increasing sharply. Is it valid to assume prices have gone up do to pressure on demand not cost build up reasons? VEry best Chic VAN DER SLUYS, WILLIAM wrote: It is my understanding that most of the methanol available in the US is produced from ethylene (petroleum). I'm not surprising that methanol prices have gone up, but, I am surprised it took so long for them to do so. They probably will come back down in the near future since oil prices have moderated. The other way to make methanol is from wood, by way of pyrolysis (destructive heating which also produces charcoal) but this is not commonly done since it is more difficult and costly. ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Kelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] To: biofuel [mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org>] Subject: [Biofuel] Methanol Price Increase? Hello All, Did I miss the news? Has there been a significant increase in the price of methanol recently? I just got the bill for a delivery (two 55gal barrels). Previous price ( July): $2.60 USD/gallon; current bill: $3.54 USD/ gallon .... 35% increase in a few months? I'll call my supplier in a little while ... maybe it's just a billing mistake. I am just hoping someone has some info. Thanks, Tom _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org<mailto:Biofuel@sustainablelists.org> http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org<http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org> Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforeverorg/biofuel.html<http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html> Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/<http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/> _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
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