The Aussies no doubt!
J;)
Doug Turner wrote:
Tom:
I can understand how a keg full of beer could present a problem. I'm
sure however that you will find some volunteers from this list to help
you out.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of *Thomas
Kelly
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2006 2:00 PM
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
*Subject:* [Biofuel] Ethyl Esters (was Making Methanol)
Joe,
I got a bit discouraged re: the distillation of ethanol.
I have plans for making a reflux still out of a beer keg. I
think it will distill to 92 - 95% purity. A friend gave me a beer
keg ..... problem: It's full of beer !!! Got to get a tap and
empty it.
I think your idea of a trap, containing zeolite, between the
still and the condenser is a good one. Vacuum would allow for
regeneration of the zeolite at temps low enough to be energy
efficient and would not damage the zeolite.
How do we heat the trap?
I'm at the beginning, middle, end of about a dozen projects
.... some have stalled due to loss of interest .... I've got
to rally.
"Time to get back to it! We should work together. I really
want to get off the meth....;)"
Ditto
Maybe this little methanol price "crisis" will serve as a
wake-up call ...
Good to hear from you
Hope you're on the mend
Tom
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Joe Street <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
*To:* biofuel@sustainablelists.org
<mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
*Sent:* Friday, November 24, 2006 11:58 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Biofuel] Making Methanol
Hi Tom;
I couldn't agree more. I have always planned to attempt ethyl
esters. That's one of the reasons I went for vacuum as I
understand the limits for water are much tighter with ethyl
esters production. Don't forget about the castor oil method
for drying alcohol. I got some castor oil to experiment with
but due to an injury I have been laid up for a while and
haven't done much. Time to get back to it! We should work
together. I really want to get off the meth....;)
Joe
Thomas Kelly wrote:
Kurt,
Thanks for the info.
Doesn't sound like something I'll be doing at home.
People get into producing their own BD for a variety of reasons
including the feeling that someone's (petroleum industry) got you in a vise
and can simply squeeze you at a whim. My concern is that methanol supply
could be the Achille's heal of BD production. It's still the main link
between BD and fossil fuels, and what compromises BD's carbon neutrality. I
wish I could make it/get it from a renewable/carbon neutral source.
Jim's reminder re: ethyl esters may get me back to looking at ethanol
production.
Thanks again,
Tom
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kurt Nolte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 23, 2006 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Making Methanol
It's possible, using the same process as rendering methanol from natural
gas, but as I recall some of their catalysts are pretty nasty. Takes a
good bit of steam, too, at least during certain portions of the process.
-Kurt
Thomas Kelly wrote:
It appears to be difficult to make methanol from wood.
Is it possible/reasonable to make methanol from methane gas?
Methane gas generated from manure would make the methanol
produced from it renewable and carbon neutral.
Tom
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