There you go Zeke!!!!  
      A second tank.

     It also answered my next question.
     What do you do when you are running on homebrew that is not anhydrous 
simply because you can't achieve 99+%, and you are low on fuel? ex Traveling 
and have to fill up with "store-bought" fuel;  E-85 or even gasoline.
Answer: Fill the second tank, flip a switch and off you go.

               Thanks Zeke, 
                           Tom
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Zeke Yewdall 
  To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Ethanol and cold starts


  I think I may have misread your questions.  It seems you are asking what to 
do if you already have the water in there, from homebrew Ethanol?    
Hmmmmm.....  Perhaps a dual tank setup like we use for SVO in diesels.  A block 
heater would probably help, but then you are using alot of electricity -- and 
is that renewably produced? 

  Z


  On 11/28/06, Zeke Yewdall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
    I don't think that adding water would be the right way to go.  I think the 
problem is that ethanol has a higher vapor pressure than gasoline, and in cold 
weather, it is hard to get it to vaporize into a fuel-air mixture effectively.  
Gasoline vaporizes much easier, and gets the engine going and initiates the 
combustion.  But water has an even higher vapor pressure than ethanol, plus it 
is not a fuel, so I don't think it would help.  Since all of the commercially 
produced flex fuel vehicals that I've seen are designed to run E85, I think 
they just rely on the gasoline content to start in the winter.  What bugs me is 
that I can't buy any flex fuel vehicals that are efficient -- I mean, if I want 
a flex fuel vehical, I have to upgrade to a full sized pickup or a V8 sedan.   
Where's the little 4 cylinder efficient flex fuel vehical?  Guess it's not all 
that hard to change out carbureator jets to change the fuel air ratio yourself 
to allow running ethanol. 

    Z


    On 11/28/06, Thomas Kelly < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
      Hello All,
           I've read that people using ethanol, blend in 15 - 20% gasoline to 
improve cold weather starts. 
          What would one do if they were running on 85 - 90% ethanol : 10 -15% 
water to improve cold weather starts?
           Do flex fuel cars have options for block heaters?

                                  Thanks, 
                                        Tom

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