You said it, Zeke. Urban form, vehicles, fuels, and public transport all act 
together. Any solution has to address all components. A lot of people are 
working on various parts, but the parts never seem to come together or, worse, 
the parts contradict one another. Like making 7 or 8 million cars a year to 
justify the "tight" embodied technology and then expecting people to leave them 
parked at home.

At the risk of becoming tedious, I repeat, cities change all the time, and the 
way in which they change can and should be channelled in a better direction, 
and now. Biofuel people need to get into urban form issues, and vice versa.

-Dawie


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On 2/8/07, robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>   Our neighborhood was designed to insulate families
from one another.  The dearth of public spaces, the lack of commercial 
development and recreational activities compel everyone to get into the
car and drive somewhere else. 

Don't you understand how the economy works?  If people in a community all walk 
to a public space and talk amongst each other and play and actually become a 
community, they aren't inside their miserable little houses watching TV and 
seeing ads for stuff that they can then drive to the mall and buy.  Buying 
stuff and pharmaceuticals to try to make yourself not feel as depressed about 
your meaningless life can't be sustained if you have too much human 
socialization and start feeling better adjusted just from being around people 
you like hanging out with. 

Z


                
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