Hello Dawie, Urban people will benefit by taking on a congestion charge similar to that of London, Eng. which has helped the air quality, reduced GHG, helped transit, and improved travelling times.
Terry Dyck >From: Dawie Coetzee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Greenest and meanest of the year (Zeke Yewdall) >Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2007 06:12:04 +0000 (GMT) > >You said it, Zeke. Urban form, vehicles, fuels, and public transport all >act together. Any solution has to address all components. A lot of people >are working on various parts, but the parts never seem to come together or, >worse, the parts contradict one another. Like making 7 or 8 million cars a >year to justify the "tight" embodied technology and then expecting people >to leave them parked at home. > >At the risk of becoming tedious, I repeat, cities change all the time, and >the way in which they change can and should be channelled in a better >direction, and now. Biofuel people need to get into urban form issues, and >vice versa. > >-Dawie > > >From: "Zeke Yewdall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Precedence: list >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2007 16:09:19 -0700 >Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----=_Part_14907_24782270.1170976159863" >Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Greenest and meanest of the year >Message: 5 > > > >On 2/8/07, robert and benita rabello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Our neighborhood was designed to insulate families >from one another. The dearth of public spaces, the lack of commercial >development and recreational activities compel everyone to get into the >car and drive somewhere else. > >Don't you understand how the economy works? If people in a community all >walk to a public space and talk amongst each other and play and actually >become a community, they aren't inside their miserable little houses >watching TV and seeing ads for stuff that they can then drive to the mall >and buy. Buying stuff and pharmaceuticals to try to make yourself not feel >as depressed about your meaningless life can't be sustained if you have too >much human socialization and start feeling better adjusted just from being >around people you like hanging out with. > >Z > > > >___________________________________________________________ >The all-new Yahoo! Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from >your Internet provider. http://uk.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html >_______________________________________________ >Biofuel mailing list >Biofuel@sustainablelists.org >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org > >Biofuel at Journey to Forever: >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html > >Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 >messages): >http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ > _________________________________________________________________ Your Space. Your Friends. Your Stories. Share your world with Windows Live Spaces. http://discoverspaces.live.com/?loc=en-CA _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/