Well I'm not sure what their costs would be. They pump the water out of the aquifer themselves so it's only the energy and maintenance costs there, and they manufacture all the bottles here as well and it's probably only a few cents worth of plastic plus again energy, maintenance and oh yes some labour but still it has to be an insane profit margin. even if they cleared 50 cents on each 500 ml bottle that's $3.6M a day. But to me more than the greed it is the way they are raping the local watershed and the other environmental faux pas which are the worst concern. If people are dumb enough to give them that much money then what can you say? But people should not be dumb enough to let them just walk away with the commons. That's huge. Then there's the Bisphenol -A issue from the plastic. That's another huge one but not just specific to this industry or this case. That one is of global concern.

J

Kirk McLoren wrote:

3.6 million a day. How much do you think they make on each bottle?


*/Joe Street <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>/* wrote:

    Hey Zeke;

    With regard to the bottling company here is something for you to
    think about.  Around here there has been a massive organization
    that has sprung up (no pun) against Nestle corp who are pulling
    millions of litres a day out of our aquifer and sending it out of
    the watershed on a convoy of trucks every day. This site;

    http://www.wellingtonwaterwatchers.ca/

    Has details about it, why it is bad and why we should be putting a
    stop to it.  If you think it is important ( and it is) you might
    want to use this site to model your own action group to protect
    your water. WATER IS THE COMMONS AND BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE NOT
    CORPORATIONS!!

    Joe

    Zeke Yewdall wrote:

    My town water is unchlorinated untreated water off some sort of
    of alpine glacier.  They test the heck out of it for organics
    weekly and it's always come up good.  People drive here from
    miles around to fill their drinking water containers. And one
    bottled water company uses town water as their source.

    However, there are alot of mines around here -- a federal
    superfund site about 3 miles below town, and according to some
    people, alot more that should be.   I wonder how much heavy
    metals are leached into the drinking water -- most of the mines
    are below the source, but I don't know if ALL of them are.   It
    would be interesting to send a sample in for testing.


    Z

    On 5/30/07, *Kirk McLoren* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        the fluoride in our water isnt from treatment
        The well is toxic

        */Jason Mier < [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>>/* wrote:

            we finally got moved in to our house, and i never got any
            notices in the
            utility bill. my guess is that- given the fact i can see
            the town's well,
            tower, and pump shack from my driveway we dont get
            chemically treated
            water...


From: Joe Street
Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
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To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org
            <mailto:biofuel@sustainablelists.org>
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fwd: [MCS-Canada] Fluoride can
kill...................
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:37:27 -0400

ROFL is it a waiver? LOL maybe one day that'll be the
            norm. They'll have
another one when you register to vote. Waive your rights
            or you can't vote
buddy. LOL

Joe

Kirk McLoren wrote:

LOL
yeah - when you sign up for water and trash you get a
            paper from the EPA.
Kirk

*/Joe Street /* wrote:

Huh? The city warns its people not to drink the water
            it provides
for them? Now I've heard everything. How many people
            have sued
for damages I wonder. That makes about as much sense as
            the notion
of trusting officials we elect to represent our
            interests. Your
explanation makes sense. Inhalation, not skin
            adsorption. Yes
there's a lot of water going by and the heat helps
            liberate the
disolved gas.

Joe

Kirk McLoren wrote:

I think in the case of chlorine it is inhaled in the
            shower.
The amount drunk is small in most peoples case as many
            people
prefer bottled beverages be they juice or soda drinks.
I know in Umatilla Oregon just drinking the water is
            enough to
cause fluorosis. CIty water is 6ppm. They encourage
            pregnant
women and children not to drink the water.
Kirk

*/Joe Street /* wrote:

Hey Kirk;

It's this last bit that has got my attention;

Kirk McLoren wrote:

SNIP


Lester was shattered. He couldn't understand it. Yet
there was a reason. Despite taking care to drink only
bottled water, Lester didn't know that *much more of the
pollution-laced tap water is absorbed through the skin
from bathing and washing clothes.
*
Poor Lester.

*Although almost all exposure to waterborne contaminants
is known to occur via dermal absorption, no studies have
ever been done to determine the toxicity of pollution
scrubber liquor the fluoride used in water fluoridation
schemes.
*


Now I have heard this several times over the last little
while with regard to chlorine in tap water. It doesn't
            make
sense to me that my body would adsorb more chlorine (or
flourine or any other toxin) from water through skin
            contact
than by drinking it. When I drink water the entire amount
goes inside and has to be processed before any of it
            comes
out again. The internal linings have evolved to be highly
adsorbing and I'm guessing that it is moreso than the
            skin.
I'd like to see the proof about this claim.

Joe
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