Meet the Economist Who Thinks We're Doomed

By Stephen Mihm, The New York Times

Posted on August 18, 2008, Printed on August 18, 2008

http://www.alternet.org/story/95375/

On Sept. 7, 2006, Nouriel Roubini, an economics professor at New York 
University, stood before an audience of economists at the 
International Monetary Fund and announced that a crisis was brewing. 
In the coming months and years, he warned, the United States was 
likely to face a once-in-a-lifetime housing bust, an oil shock, 
sharply declining consumer confidence and, ultimately, a deep 
recession. He laid out a bleak sequence of events: homeowners 
defaulting on mortgages, trillions of dollars of mortgage-backed 
securities unraveling worldwide and the global financial system 
shuddering to a halt. These developments, he went on, could cripple 
or destroy hedge funds, investment banks and other major financial 
institutions like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

The audience seemed skeptical, even dismissive. As Roubini stepped 
down from the lectern after his talk, the moderator of the event 
quipped, "I think perhaps we will need a stiff drink after that." 
People laughed -- and not without reason. At the time, unemployment 
and inflation remained low, and the economy, while weak, was still 
growing, despite rising oil prices and a softening housing market. 
And then there was the espouser of doom himself: Roubini was known to 
be a perpetual pessimist, what economists call a "permabear." When 
the economist Anirvan Banerji delivered his response to Roubini's 
talk, he noted that Roubini's predictions did not make use of 
mathematical models and dismissed his hunches as those of a career 
naysayer.

But Roubini was soon vindicated. In the year that followed, subprime 
lenders began entering bankruptcy, hedge funds began going under and 
the stock market plunged. There was declining employment, a 
deteriorating dollar, ever-increasing evidence of a huge housing bust 
and a growing air of panic in financial markets as the credit crisis 
deepened. By late summer, the Federal Reserve was rushing to the 
rescue, making the first of many unorthodox interventions in the 
economy, including cutting the lending rate by 50 basis points and 
buying up tens of billions of dollars in mortgage-backed securities. 
When Roubini returned to the I.M.F. last September, he delivered a 
second talk, predicting a growing crisis of solvency that would 
infect every sector of the financial system. This time, no one 
laughed. "He sounded like a madman in 2006," recalls the I.M.F. 
economist Prakash Loungani, who invited Roubini on both occasions. 
"He was a prophet when he returned in 2007."

Over the past year, whenever optimists have declared the worst of the 
economic crisis behind us, Roubini has countered with steadfast 
pessimism. In February, when the conventional wisdom held that the 
venerable investment firms of Wall Street would weather the crisis, 
Roubini warned that one or more of them would go "belly up" -- and 
six weeks later, Bear Stearns collapsed. Following the Fed's further 
extraordinary actions in the spring -- including making lines of 
credit available to selected investment banks and brokerage houses -- 
many economists made note of the ensuing economic rally and 
proclaimed the credit crisis over and a recession averted. Roubini, 
who dismissed the rally as nothing more than a "delusional 
complacency" encouraged by a "bunch of self-serving spinmasters," 
stuck to his script of "nightmare" events: waves of corporate 
bankrupticies, collapses in markets like commercial real estate and 
municipal bonds and, most alarming, the possible bankruptcy of a 
large regional or national bank that would trigger a panic by 
depositors. Not all of these developments have come to pass (and 
perhaps never will), but the demise last month of the California bank 
IndyMac -- one of the largest such failures in U.S. history -- drew 
only more attention to Roubini's seeming prescience.

As a result, Roubini, a respected but formerly obscure academic, has 
become a major figure in the public debate about the economy: the 
seer who saw it coming. He has been summoned to speak before 
Congress, the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic 
Forum at Davos. He is now a sought-after adviser, spending much of 
his time shuttling between meetings with central bank governors and 
finance ministers in Europe and Asia. Though he continues to issue 
colorful doomsday prophecies of a decidedly nonmainstream sort -- 
especially on his popular and polemical blog, where he offers visions 
of "equity market slaughter" and the "Coming Systemic Bust of the 
U.S. Banking System" -- the mainstream economic establishment appears 
to be moving closer, however fitfully, to his way of seeing things. 
"I have in the last few months become more pessimistic than the 
consensus," the former Treasury secretary Lawrence Summers told me 
earlier this year. "Certainly, Nouriel's writings have been a 
contributor to that."

On a cold and dreary day last winter, I met Roubini over lunch in the 
TriBeCa neighborhood of New York City. "I'm not a pessimist by 
nature," he insisted. "I'm not someone who sees things in a bleak 
way." Just looking at him, I found the assertion hard to credit. With 
a dour manner and an aura of gloom about him, Roubini gives the 
impression of being permanently pained, as if the burden of what he 
knows is almost too much for him to bear. He rarely smiles, and when 
he does, his face, topped by an unruly mop of brown hair, contorts 
into something more closely resembling a grimace.

When I pressed him on his claim that he wasn't pessimistic, he paused 
for a moment and then relented a little. "I have more concerns about 
potential risks and vulnerabilities than most people," he said, with 
glum understatement. But these concerns, he argued, make him more of 
a realist than a pessimist and put him in the role of the cleareyed 
outsider -- unsettling complacency and puncturing pieties.

Roubini, who is 50, has been an outsider his entire life. He was born 
in Istanbul, the child of Iranian Jews, and his family moved to 
Tehran when he was 2, then to Tel Aviv and finally to Italy, where he 
grew up and attended college. He moved to the United States to pursue 
his doctorate in international economics at Harvard. Along the way he 
became fluent in Farsi, Hebrew, Italian and English. His accent, an 
inimitable polyglot growl, radiates a weariness that comes with being 
what he calls a "global nomad."

As a graduate student at Harvard, Roubini was an unusual talent, 
according to his adviser, the Columbia economist Jeffrey Sachs. He 
was as comfortable in the world of arcane mathematics as he was 
studying political and economic institutions. "It's a mix of skills 
that rarely comes packaged in one person," Sachs told me. After 
completing his Ph.D. in 1988, Roubini joined the economics department 
at Yale, where he first met and began sharing ideas with Robert 
Shiller, the economist now known for his prescient warnings about the 
1990s tech bubble.

The '90s were an eventful time for an international economist like 
Roubini. Throughout the decade, one emerging economy after another 
was beset by crisis, beginning with Mexico's in 1994. Panics swept 
Asia, including Thailand, Indonesia and Korea, in 1997 and 1998. The 
economies of Brazil and Russia imploded in 1998. Argentina's followed 
in 2000. Roubini began studying these countries and soon identified 
what he saw as their common weaknesses. On the eve of the crises that 
befell them, he noticed, most had huge current-account deficits 
(meaning, basically, that they spent far more than they made), and 
they typically financed these deficits by borrowing from abroad in 
ways that exposed them to the national equivalent of bank runs. Most 
of these countries also had poorly regulated banking systems plagued 
by excessive borrowing and reckless lending. Corporate governance was 
often weak, with cronyism in abundance.

Roubini's work was distinguished not only by his conclusions but also 
by his approach. By making extensive use of transnational comparisons 
and historical analogies, he was employing a subjective, nontechnical 
framework, the sort embraced by popular economists like the Times 
Op-Ed columnist Paul Krugman and Joseph Stiglitz in order to reach a 
nonacademic audience. Roubini takes pains to note that he remains a 
rigorous scholarly economist -- "When I weigh evidence," he told me, 
"I'm drawing on 20 years of accumulated experience using models" -- 
but his approach is not the contemporary scholarly ideal in which an 
economist builds a model in order to constrain his subjective 
impressions and abide by a discrete set of data. As Shiller told me, 
"Nouriel has a different way of seeing things than most economists: 
he gets into everything."

Roubini likens his style to that of a policy maker like Alan 
Greenspan, the former Fed chairman who was said (perhaps 
apocryphally) to pore over vast quantities of technical economic data 
while sitting in the bathtub, looking to sniff out where the economy 
was headed. Roubini also cites, as a more ideologically congenial 
example, the sweeping, cosmopolitan approach of the legendary 
economist John Maynard Keynes, whom Roubini, with only slight 
exaggeration, calls "the most brilliant economist who never wrote 
down an equation." The book that Roubini ultimately wrote (with the 
economist Brad Setser) on the emerging market crises, "Bailouts or 
Bail-Ins?" contains not a single equation in its 400-plus pages.

After analyzing the markets that collapsed in the '90s, Roubini set 
out to determine which country's economy would be the next to succumb 
to the same pressures. His surprising answer: the United States'. 
"The United States," Roubini remembers thinking, "looked like the 
biggest emerging market of all." Of course, the United States wasn't 
an emerging market; it was (and still is) the largest economy in the 
world. But Roubini was unnerved by what he saw in the U.S. economy, 
in particular its 2004 current-account deficit of $600 billion. He 
began writing extensively about the dangers of that deficit and then 
branched out, researching the various effects of the credit boom -- 
including the biggest housing bubble in the nation's history -- that 
began after the Federal Reserve cut rates to close to zero in 2003. 
Roubini became convinced that the housing bubble was going to pop.

By late 2004 he had started to write about a "nightmare hard landing 
scenario for the United States." He predicted that foreign investors 
would stop financing the fiscal and current-account deficit and 
abandon the dollar, wreaking havoc on the economy. He said that these 
problems, which he called the "twin financial train wrecks," might 
manifest themselves in 2005 or, at the latest, 2006. "You have been 
warned here first," he wrote ominously on his blog. But by the end of 
2006, the train wrecks hadn't occurred.

Recessions are signal events in any modern economy. And yet 
remarkably, the profession of economics is quite bad at predicting 
them. A recent study looked at "consensus forecasts" (the predictions 
of large groups of economists) that were made in advance of 60 
different national recessions that hit around the world in the '90s: 
in 97 percent of the cases, the study found, the economists failed to 
predict the coming contraction a year in advance. On those rare 
occasions when economists did successfully predict recessions, they 
significantly underestimated the severity of the downturns. Worse, 
many of the economists failed to anticipate recessions that occurred 
as soon as two months later.

The dismal science, it seems, is an optimistic profession. Many 
economists, Roubini among them, argue that some of the optimism is 
built into the very machinery, the mathematics, of modern economic 
theory. Econometric models typically rely on the assumption that the 
near future is likely to be similar to the recent past, and thus it 
is rare that the models anticipate breaks in the economy. And if the 
models can't foresee a relatively minor break like a recession, they 
have even more trouble modeling and predicting a major rupture like a 
full-blown financial crisis. Only a handful of 20th-century 
economists have even bothered to study financial panics. (The most 
notable example is probably the late economist Hyman Minksy, of whom 
Roubini is an avid reader.) "These are things most economists barely 
understand," Roubini told me. "We're in uncharted territory where 
standard economic theory isn't helpful."

True though this may be, Roubini's critics do not agree that his 
approach is any more accurate. Anirvan Banerji, the economist who 
challenged Roubini's first I.M.F. talk, points out that Roubini has 
been peddling pessimism for years; Banerji contends that Roubini's 
apparent foresight is nothing more than an unhappy coincidence of 
events. "Even a stopped clock is right twice a day," he told me. "The 
justification for his bearish call has evolved over the years," 
Banerji went on, ticking off the different reasons that Roubini has 
used to justify his predictions of recessions and crises: rising 
trade deficits, exploding current-account deficits, Hurricane 
Katrina, soaring oil prices. All of Roubini's predictions, Banerji 
observed, have been based on analogies with past experience. "This 
forecasting by analogy is a tempting thing to do," he said. "But you 
have to pick the right analogy. The danger of this more subjective 
approach is that instead of letting the objective facts shape your 
views, you will choose the facts that confirm your existing views."

Kenneth Rogoff, an economist at Harvard who has known Roubini for 
decades, told me that he sees great value in Roubini's willingness to 
entertain possible situations that are far outside the consensus view 
of most economists. "If you're sitting around at the European Central 
Bank," he said, "and you're asking what's the worst thing that could 
happen, the first thing people will say is, 'Let's see what Nouriel 
says.' " But Rogoff cautioned against equating that skill with 
forecasting. Roubini, in other words, might be the kind of economist 
you want to consult about the possibility of the collapse of the 
municipal-bond market, but he is not necessarily the kind you ask to 
predict, say, the rise in global demand for paper clips.

His defenders contend that Roubini is not unduly pessimistic. Jeffrey 
Sachs, his former adviser, told me that "if the underlying conditions 
call for optimism, Nouriel would be optimistic." And to be sure, 
Roubini is capable of being optimistic -- or at least of steering 
clear of absolute worst-case prognostications. He agrees, for 
example, with the conventional economic wisdom that oil will drop 
below $100 a barrel in the coming months as global demand weakens. 
"I'm not comfortable saying that we're going to end up in the Great 
Depression," he told me. "I'm a reasonable person."

What economic developments does Roubini see on the horizon? And what 
does he think we should do about them? The first step, he told me in 
a recent conversation, is to acknowledge the extent of the problem. 
"We are in a recession, and denying it is nonsense," he said. When 
Jim Nussle, the White House budget director, announced last month 
that the nation had "avoided a recession," Roubini was incredulous. 
For months, he has been predicting that the United States will suffer 
through an 18-month recession that will eventually rank as the "worst 
since the Great Depression." Though he is confident that the economy 
will enter a technical recovery toward the end of next year, he says 
that job losses, corporate bankruptcies and other drags on growth 
will continue to take a toll for years.

Roubini has counseled various policy makers, including Federal 
Reserve governors and senior Treasury Department officials, to mount 
an aggressive response to the crisis. He applauded when the Federal 
Reserve cut interest rates to 2 percent from 5.25 percent beginning 
last summer. He also supported the Fed's willingness to engineer a 
takeover of Bear Stearns. Roubini argues that the Fed's actions 
averted catastrophe, though he says he believes that future bailouts 
should focus on mortgage owners, not investors. Accordingly, he sees 
the choice facing the United States as stark but simple: either the 
government backs up a trillion-plus dollars' worth of high-risk 
mortgages (in exchange for the lenders' agreement to reduce monthly 
mortgage payments), or the banks and other institutions holding those 
mortgages -- or the complex securities derived from them -- go under. 
"You either nationalize the banks or you nationalize the mortgages," 
he said. "Otherwise, they're all toast."

For months Roubini has been arguing that the true cost of the housing 
crisis will not be a mere $300 billion -- the amount allowed for by 
the housing legislation sponsored by Representative Barney Frank and 
Senator Christopher Dodd -- but something between a trillion and a 
trillion and a half dollars. But most important, in Roubini's 
opinion, is to realize that the problem is deeper than the housing 
crisis. "Reckless people have deluded themselves that this was a 
subprime crisis," he told me. "But we have problems with credit-card 
debt, student-loan debt, auto loans, commercial real estate loans, 
home-equity loans, corporate debt and loans that financed leveraged 
buyouts." All of these forms of debt, he argues, suffer from some or 
all of the same traits that first surfaced in the housing market: 
shoddy underwriting, securitization, negligence on the part of the 
credit-rating agencies and lax government oversight. "We have a 
subprime financial system," he said, "not a subprime mortgage market."

Roubini argues that most of the losses from this bad debt have yet to 
be written off, and the toll from bad commercial real estate loans 
alone may help send hundreds of local banks into the arms of the 
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation. "A good third of the regional 
banks won't make it," he predicted. In turn, these bailouts will add 
hundreds of billions of dollars to an already gargantuan federal 
debt, and someone, somewhere, is going to have to finance that debt, 
along with all the other debt accumulated by consumers and 
corporations. "Our biggest financiers are China, Russia and the gulf 
states," Roubini noted. "These are rivals, not allies."

The United States, Roubini went on, will likely muddle through the 
crisis but will emerge from it a different nation, with a different 
place in the world. "Once you run current-account deficits, you 
depend on the kindness of strangers," he said, pausing to let out a 
resigned sigh. "This might be the beginning of the end of the 
American empire."

© 2008 The New York Times

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Stephen Mihm, an assistant professor of economic history at the 
University of Georgia, is the author of "A Nation of Counterfeiters: 
Capitalists, Con Men and the Making of the United States." His last 
feature article for the magazine was about North Korean 
counterfeiting.

© 2008 The New York Times All rights reserved.

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