Someone just asked me this: >hi >first id like to say thanks for a really helpful website >secondly, in the biogas area there is a picture of john fry with a >diesel engine converted to run on biogas. >id like to know if this conversion is possible for any diesel, and >if so how and how easy is it? >thanks
That's here: Methane Digesters For Fuel Gas and Fertilizer, With Complete Instructions For Two Working Models -- by L. John Fry, Santa Barbara, Calif. 93103, © 1973, Eighth Printing (out of print). <http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html#methanefry> The picture is at the end of Chapter 11: <http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/MethaneDigesters/MD7.html> Any good answers? Thanks! Best Keith >Greetings David, welcome > >>Dear SurpriseShan2, >> >>First of all, it passes my understanding what this has to do with >>biofuels, but the terms of use (taken liberally) say that no one can >>tell, and newbies should probably not question the scope of topics. So >>there you are. > >I'm glad you read the rules, even if you didn't quite follow them. >:-) Never mind. > >You could go back in the archives seven or eight years to find the >origins of it, and I'm sure you'd agree. Many people tried to define >what's on-topic and what's not, and none of it made much sense. > >Biofuel comes with a context, after all. What's sustainable is part >of it, there are sustainable and not sustainable ways of producing >biofuels crops and energy crops, for a start. Small, local, and >organic is best, as many major authorities now agree at last, the >UN's IAASTD World Agriculture Report for one. Same as with food >production. > >The scope here for the kind of discussion in this thread is that and >more - soil and health are a part of the context, healthy soil, >healthy crops, healthy livestock, healthy people, healthy >communities. > >Journey to Forever has an online Biofuels Library, here: >Biofuels Library >http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library.html > >It's detailed at the list info page as one of the list resources: >http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel > >Another library at Journey to Forever is the Small Farms Library, >which the list has probably used just as much as the Biofuels >Library: > >Small Farms Library >http://journeytoforever.org/farm_library.html > >It's headed "The Soil and Health". Have a look, if you like. At >least two list members have said onlist that our Small Farms Library >has literally saved their lives. So it wouldn't seem to be off-topic. > >Anyway, it's fairly quiet here at the moment, nobody's "getting >their mailbox swamped" and nobody's forcing anyone to read anything, >messages have subject headers. There's room for whatever. That's one >of the reasons the archives has such depth. And quite often it can >bring up very much on-topic discussions that might not have happened >otherwise. > >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> I truly fail to follow your logic here - or is it logic? And cancer is a >>> fungus, not a fungicide. Though it has long been debated just >>>what percentage >>> of cancer were bacteria, or virus or fungus - it being a fungus >>>has not been >>> under debate, at least not for many years. It has only been the >>>last 2 years >>> that a doctor, Dr Simoncini, proved that cancer was usually if >>>not always a >>> fungus. But I am curious, please tell me why fungus can't >>>replicate? Especially >>> as fungus is a natural componate in the body; it only makes >>>people sick when >>> it is overgrown and the natural controls are not working or are >>>diminished. >>> >> >>Not even Simoncini says that cancer is a fungus. And the gentleman to >>whom you are replying did not say that cancer is a fungicide, as you >>imply. This is simply a misuse of language: slipshod, funky, and >>inaccurate. Without clear language, how is clear thought possible? >> >>Dr. Simoncini says rather that cancer is /caused by /a fungus, and that >>killing the fungus cures the cancer. His treatment of choice is >>intravenous or oral sodium bicarbonate: Arm and Hammer baking soda. >>That's the wonder drug. >> >>The idea, apparently, is that cancer cells produce an acidic >>environment, and the use of bicarb neutralizes acidity. Certainly both >>things are true. However, it is difficult to change the pH of the blood >>or body because it is very strongly homeostatic, and well buffered. If >>the pH of someone's body is changed in any marked way, that person would >>probably die, because so many physiologic systems depend on a narrow pH >>range. >> >>But really, this is barely worth discussing, much less arguing about. >>None of us has the tools to be certain whether the man is a genius or a >>charlatan, or both. Or maybe neither. But it doesn't matter, since the >>stuff is available in any drugstore. If you want to swallow sodium >>bicarb, have at it. It makes a good toothpaste, and is cheaper in that >>use than anything you can squeeze out of a tube. Add hydrogen peroxide >>and you've got something really useful. And if you happen to swallow >>some, and he's right, then you will never suffer from cancer, and you >>can put to rest any residual fear of fungus. If he's wrong, well, bicarb >>can't hurt, in modest quantity, taken orally. Occasionally. Probably. > >It's not only him. The idea that candida albicans is an essential >precursor of cancer is rather older than that. Anyway. > >>Now how about them biofuels? > >Well, how about them? We gave you a menu already, you choose. > >Arguably, small-scale biodiesel technology has reached a good level >of maturity, anyone can easily learn to make their own top-quality >biodiesel, safely, cheaply and efficiently, just follow the how-to, >start here, do this, don't do that. Not that much left to discuss, >it's all there for you > >That wasn't the case at all when we started the list nine years ago, >and the Biofuel list has been at the forefront of the technology >development. > >Small-scale ethanol technology was already quite well-developed, >obviously; David Blume's "Alcohol Can Be A Gas" plus the resources >at Journey to Forever and the list archives provide a full how-to >for fuel ethanol. > >Would you say that's the case with biogas? Is there a how-to? Is >"The Complete Biogas Handbook" a full how-to, for instance - start >here, do this, don't do that? > >It's a different sort of problem, isn't it? Biology, not just >chemistry. You probably wouldn't find exactly the same conditions in >any two biodigesters, especially small-scale local ones, for small >farmers or city farmers, or community groups or whatever. I don't >have direct experience of that, but it's certainly true with compost >piles. > >There are quite a few list members working with biogas. There's >quite a lot of previous discussion in the archives, and there are >biogas resources at the Journey to Forever online libraries, but >there's no biogas section at the Journey to Forever website as there >is with biodiesel and ethanol. One reason for that is that we didn't >do it here yet, though it would easily fit in, and another reason is >my suspicion that there isn't a straightforward "start here"-type >how-to on biogas. Please correct me if I'm wrong. > >Best wishes > >Keith Addison >Journey to Forever >KYOTO Pref., Japan >http://journeytoforever.org/ >Biofuel list owner > >You like Rumi? So do I. Also Al-Ghazzali. Well, Sufis. (Among others.) > > >>d. >>-- >>David William House >>"The Complete Biogas Handbook" |www.completebiogas.com| >> >>"Make no search for water. But find thirst, >>And water from the very ground will burst." >>(Rumi, a Persian mystic poet, quoted in /Delight of Hearts/, p. 77) _______________________________________________ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
