Have you looked on drag racing forums about methanol for race fuel? And they discuss the effects on the motor and modifications required.
Michele > On Nov 27, 2014, at 12:24 PM, "Darryl McMahon" <dar...@econogics.com> wrote: > > Has anyone read "Beyond Oil and Gas: The Methanol Economy"? > > http://www.technologyreview.com/news/405436/the-methanol-economy/ > > http://www.amazon.ca/Beyond-Oil-Gas-Methanol-Economy/dp/3527324224 > > If so, any thoughts about the book or subject matter? > > Darryl > >> On 27/11/2014 12:55 PM, John Jaser wrote: >> Tom: >> >> >> Thanks for the abundant knowledge in your post. I am most certainly not a >> chemist, but have always considered liquid methanol a very interesting >> candidate for energy storage. Since it can be made from a variety of >> renewable and non renewable means (wood, coal, biogas, etc) it seems like an >> easier economic target to produce than pure hydrogen. Transprots and pumps >> well, compared to what would be needed for compressed hydrogen gas. What to >> do with it once you make it? The indirect methanol fuel cell, if developed >> further looks promising. >> >> >> Thanks again for the conversation! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Tom >> Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2014 5:33 PM >> To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org >> >> >> >> >> >> Aaah, methane is intriguing. >> Biogas is a metabolic product of one of the most ancient life forms, the >> methanocreatrices. Anaerobic chemoautotrophic bacteria so different from >> others that many would assign them to their own kingdom. >> As to methane being easily transported consider .... where propane and >> natural gas can be compressed to liquids, greatly increasing energy density, >> methane "resists" liquefaction, requiring tremendous pressure. This seems to >> be the "fly in the ointment". Unliquefied, a tankful of methane doesn't go >> far. >> Methane has value as a renewable fuel. >> It is captured and used at waste treatment >> plants to generate electricity. Methane is currently being captured at >> landfills and used to generate electricity. I know of a dairy farm that >> harvests methane from the manure the cows produce. They use the methane to >> generate electricity. The heat from the generators heats the water used to >> sanitize the milking area. They don't use the methane in their cars or farm >> machinery however. >> Relatively safe. Hmmm >> Methane is a potent greenhouse gas. "Ocean burps" from vast storehouses of >> methyl hydrates/clathrates have been credited with contributing >> significantly to the end of the last ice age. The release of methane from >> thawing peat bogs is a part of the cascade of events that is accelerating >> global warming. Gasoline was once considered a waste product of oil >> refining, dumped into rivers. When it was pointed out that it could replace >> ethanol as fuel for internal combustion engines the "waste" became valuable. >> Imagine what might happen if methane gas presented the same financial >> opportunities by its use as vehicle fuel >> .... a "renewable fuel". Do we dare the oil giants to tap the vast stores of >> methane currently trapped safely under the ocean? It's already being >> proposed. They can do it safely, right? Have you seen the data about leakage >> from pipelines compressed gases seem to find their way out. Not so good in >> the case of methane. >> Capturing methane at its source and using it close to where it's produced >> to generate electricity seems appropriate. >> Sorry to carry on, but you did say methane was intriguing. >> Best, >> Tom >> > _______________________________________________ > Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list > Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org > http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel _______________________________________________ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
